Is “heartless” Southwest Airlines profiting from dad’s death?

Jennifer Kucinski lives in Kansas City. Her father lives in Orlando. Make that lived in Orlando.

A few weeks ago, she received devastating news that her dad had passed away unexpectedly. Compounding that tragedy was the fact that Southwest Airlines was trying to stick her with two overpriced plane tickets, a decision she calls “heartless.”

“Upon reaching the agent and explaining the situation, the first words out of the agents mouth were, ‘We don’t offer bereavement fares’,” she says.

Many readers of this site know how the system works. Bereavement fares are all but extinct, mostly because passengers took advantage of them and the abuse cost airlines a lot of money. As a result, regular non-business travelers like Kucinski must pay the full walk-up fare for their planet tickets when they fly to a funeral.

Is that fair? Probably not. But the ethically-challenged passengers who used to lie about their aunt or uncle dying so they could get discounted plane tickets — that wasn’t fair to the airlines, either.

The question today is: What should I do with bereavement fare problems? Do I send them to the airline and ask them to reconsider them? Do I tell them “tough luck” — it’s the price you pay for a ticket? (Sorry about the death of your father or mother, by the way.)

Related: In today’s edition of What’s your problem?, there’s some trouble on the range.

I wrestle with this question all the time, and not just with Southwest Airlines plane tickets.

Let’s get back to Kucinski’s experience.

I told the agent we needed to be on the first flight to Orlando, and asked what my flight options were.

I was then told that there were only a few seats left on a flight, and that the fare was $441 per seat.

When I asked if she could help me out with a lower fare, I was informed if I wanted a cheaper fare, I needed to look on the website.

We did not have time to go fare shopping online. We had limited time to get to the airport, so we made the only decision possible and out of desperation we took the fare.

I was insulted and very disappointed by the lack of empathy and posture shown by the airline in our time of need.

I understand how Kucinski must have felt. I get the book thrown in my face every day as a consumer advocate, and it never gets easier. While the agent might have been a little nicer about her plane tickets, she was just doing her job. Southwest Airlines — and indeed, most airlines, don’t offer bereavement fares, even when you show a death certificate.

Fortunately, the return tickets only cost $188 a piece. But Kucinski is still upset. No airline should profit from death, she asserts.

“I find it hard to believe that a $12.1 billion corporation which has the heart of the matter exhibits such behavior in a person’s time of tragedy,” she told me.

Kucinski took the matter of her plane tickets up with Southwest Airlines after she returned to Kansas City.

I contacted the customer service department and relayed my experience to a an agent who apologized, and transferred me to a manager. After an enlightening discussion with the manager, I was told that was the only fare available and that is why I was charged that amount and there was nothing they could do for me.

I feel my experience contradicts the alleged values of this corporation.

And what, exactly, are those “alleged” values?

Here’s Southwest’s mission statement: “The mission of Southwest Airlines is dedication to the highest quality of customer service delivered with a sense of warmth, friendliness, individual pride and company spirit.”

This is the first time in my years of advocating for airline customers that someone has invoked a mission statement.

But you know what? She got me on that one.

There’s a relatively happy resolution to this case, but before I get to that, let me set up today’s “Can this trip be saved?” question. Should I mediate bereavement fare cases? Or should I offer the same answer, which is that these special fares are more or less gone now?

I contacted Southwest on Kucinski’s behalf. She emailed me a few days ago with good news.

A representative from Southwest called last week and they credited us $138 — $69 for each ticket.

They also informed us that if we needed to call for a reservation and we didn’t have access to a computer, that a call needs to be made the customer relations specifically in Dallas at a specific phone number that is not advertised.

Thank you for calling Southwest on our behalf, it is appreciated.

I love a happy ending. But I can’t do this for every airline passenger who has a death in the family. Or can I?

  • Joe Farrell

    Hey – I’m just a random guy here -but honestly – using kayak.com would have located the best fare in about 22 seconds – you then can go to Southwest and whatever other airline websites would get you there –

    Who knows – maybe she’d get lucky and it would be her day for Allegiant to be operating a trip from Wichita to Orlando and it would cost $39 . . . plus $100 in fees.  Which she’d probably have complained about as well. 

  • Carver

    Why does it matter?  The fact that it matters to me is a sufficient reason to ask the question.  But if we must….

    First, any statement which purports to be a factual statement is subject to validation, just on general principle.

    Second, it allows me to better judge the type of entity that I am doing business with, or not doing business with.  I strongly prefer to do business with companies which are aligned with my personal worldview, which I would call compassionate capitalism.

    An airline is perfectly free to offer whatever fares it chooses for whatever reason its chooses, but I am equally free to spend my money elsewhere.

  • Bob

    One important thing I believe no one has mentioned yet: The salesman at the Southwest ticket counter HAS NO ABILITY TO CHANGE FARES! There is no physically possible way that the salesman, whether at the airport ticket counter or over the phone, can manually adjust any fare (the only way to change them is to change booking codes, but that’s only possible if the fare rules allow it, which they wouldn’t have in this case, because it’s a ticket without advance purchase). Airline reservation systems don’t work that way, and for good reason. If the fare came up as $441, then the fare was $441. Again, the agent isn’t PHYSICALLY able to, say, take $100 off the cost of the ticket. So the point being, what exactly did the OP expect the Southwest agent to do in this case?

  • Anonymous

    Yeah – that was what I was thinking.

    I wouldn’t be surprised that in someone’s grief, a rather sympathetic “Sorry – I’d like to help but I don’t have the authority to lower the fare, and neither does my supervisor” was interpreted as “we can’t do anything”.

  • Anonymous

    I do remember researching a former employer’s bereavement policy when a relative died.  I actually had up to 5 days paid leave from my employer.  However, my manager knew me and if I’d have pulled a fast one on him going on vacation instead of a relative’s funeral he would have eventually found out.

    Now the airlines didn’t have such a policy.  However, a relative who travelled with me to the funeral was a travel agent and managed to use travel agent tricks like getting quarter fare for the ride back – in first class no less.  So we’re flying back from the funeral eating caviar and megabuck Champagne.  The dinner was lousy though.

  • Patsy

    For the same reason you can plan bereavement fares in advance too. Not everyone dies unexpectedly

  • Carver

    I wonder.

    I was at American Airlines and for a variety of reasons the system didn’t show my ticket.  The ticket agent was able to work her magic and issue a completely new ticket at the old ticket price.  It took her 15 minutes but she got it done.

    Perhaps one of the TAs could explain how she did it.

  • Anonymous

    I agree. This OP seems like the type to whine to some “investigative reporter” on the 6 o’clock news about how SWA “profited from her father’s death.” Because, dontcha know, the world is supposed to bend over and kiss her rear because she’s in an unfortunate situation. 

    It’s total hush money. 

  • GDP

    I’m sure this has been mentioned before, but I’ll make my comment anyway.  Airlines could easily regain face by offering bereavement rates after the fact.  If someone needs to make the emergency flight, they can pay the standard walk-up price.  After their affairs have been settled, the airline can look at the proper documentation (i.e. certified documentation), and then offer an appropriate cash refund as a generous gesture.  By doing this after the fact, the airlines can protect themselves from passengers flying for “Aunt Millie’s” funeral (who is still quite alive) while still offering help to actual grieving families.

  • Mark K

    Continental does that now.  You buy your ticket – any fare any class even the lowest internet fare available – and call them later when you have all the necessary paperwork or information required and they refund up to 20% of what you paid based on total cost (that’s a refund, not a voucher).  Sounds like a good deal to me.  Unfortunately, due to their merger with United I doubt this level of compassion will continue.

  • Steve R

    I say there’s no reason to mediate cases where someone is upset that they’re not being offered a bereavement fare. (Cases in which there is a dispute over what the airline offered, of course, are still worth mediating). I’m sorry for the OP’s loss, but there’s no reason why an airline should be required to treat a last-minute purchase due to a death any different from a last-minute purchase due to an important meeting or a last-minute vacation.

    I would be more inclined to side with the OP if Southwest had treated her rudely, but I’m not at all sure that’s what happened. As others have said, it’s quite possible that in her emotional state she interpreted a polite, matter-of-fact statement that SW doesn’t offer bereavement fares as rude.

  • Douglas

    When my own father passed away in April, 2000, the USAir agent kept me on the line while she called the hospital in Port Chester, NY, to confirm the death with the emergency room. The bereavement fare I got was actually the regular 14-day advance purchase fare without the advance purchase requirement, sold on the spot, for travel the next morning. I thought that was a perfectly fair way of handling it, the airline protecting itself from a possibly bogus claim, at the same time offering a very equitable concession in view of the sad event. I don’t know what USAir is doing now, and I’m not looking forward to another death in the family to find out. But if I were an airline, I certainly wouldn’t accept a claim based on a name found in the obituary column of any newspaper.

  • Michael K

    FYI: Your local gas station probably makes less profit than airlines.  The fuel itself is often a slight loss-leader for the snack-marts which generate all the real profit.

    FYI 2: Southwest effect is overrated.  They don’t fly to my market and I get better fares than Kansas City.  The real issue is competition or lack thereof.

  • Michael K

    FYI: Your local gas station probably makes less profit than airlines.  The fuel itself is often a slight loss-leader for the snack-marts which generate all the real profit.

    FYI 2: Southwest effect is overrated.  They don’t fly to my market and I get better fares than Kansas City.  The real issue is competition or lack thereof.

  • Steve

    You have heartless readers…

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_HMW3OTJSBDWWRKIEKEKWWM7BEA bc

    Pauletteb, while searching eBay, buy yourself some common sense. 

    I agree the OP was a whiner and is obviously upset under the circumstances. They are angry and SW is a good scapegoat to take out that anger. I would think with the death of a parent, the Jennifer would have more pressing issues than whining about the cost of the plane ticket to attend her father’s funeral. 

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_HMW3OTJSBDWWRKIEKEKWWM7BEA bc

    Raven, I don’t always like your comments but I do like this one! 

  • Rich

    I’m thinking that the grief she was feeling was only exacerbated by the “last minute” pressure to get to Orlando.  Hence, her perception was perhaps skewed.  It’s east to see, through her eyes at the time, now she thought she might have been “stuck with” overpriced tickets. 
    When airlines used to offer berevement fares, the cost was often computed by taking the full one-way “Y” fare and discount it 50%; in essence allowing a round-trip for the cost of a full one-way “Y” coach fare.
    WN is the only carrier flying nonstop between those two points.  Let’s take a look at the fares currently at full one-way “Y” for some of the other carriers in the market…
    CO = 1453.00
    UA = 1453.00
    DL = 1423.00
    US = 1333.00
    AA = 1346.00
    Had they offered berevement fares, USAirways would have come through as the “winner” here allowing a round-trip for the “one-way full Y” fare of $1333.00.
    Frankly, she did fairly well BEFORE they elected to kick back some of the cost of her ticket.

  • Rich

    I’m thinking that the grief she was feeling was only exacerbated by the “last minute” pressure to get to Orlando.  Hence, her perception was perhaps skewed.  It’s east to see, through her eyes at the time, now she thought she might have been “stuck with” overpriced tickets. 
    When airlines used to offer berevement fares, the cost was often computed by taking the full one-way “Y” fare and discount it 50%; in essence allowing a round-trip for the cost of a full one-way “Y” coach fare.
    WN is the only carrier flying nonstop between those two points.  Let’s take a look at the fares currently at full one-way “Y” for some of the other carriers in the market…
    CO = 1453.00
    UA = 1453.00
    DL = 1423.00
    US = 1333.00
    AA = 1346.00
    Had they offered berevement fares, USAirways would have come through as the “winner” here allowing a round-trip for the “one-way full Y” fare of $1333.00.
    Frankly, she did fairly well BEFORE they elected to kick back some of the cost of her ticket.

  • Traveling man

    This was not your problem to begin with. A simple call to an ASTA travel agent will tell you what fares are out there. The Kansas City Orlando market is not only Southwest. They were sold out of cheap  seats that day, but other airlines probably were available. That’s where one call to an agent could have saved possibly 100′s of dollars. Southwest was dead wrong on offering the refund! I just checked on USAir and found 134.00 today through Charlotte. Southwest has done a great job on making the public believe that it is the cheap – go to airline.

  • Patrick

    Put some perspective onto this situation.  Dad is dead.  It makes absolutely no difference to the dead person.  This is an emotional response by the Kucinski.  Should SWA pay for her emotional problem?  No.

  • Bodega

    He is not a travel agent and has even admitted to not knowing the business.

    He puts out an article where he says it was resolved, but doesn’t say why it was resolved.  He isn’t on ‘our payroll’ but he gets paid because he has readers.  He owns them something more when a result takes place based on his intervention.

    My guess on this is that the online fare was less than the over the phone fare and hence the refunded amount.  But, seriously, how hard would it be for this to be checked into with the person he spoke to at WN and relayed to the readers? 

  • Bodega

    After thinking on this, I am guessing the webfare at the time she booked over the phone was less and they just gave her the difference.  But it would be nice to know this.

  • Tony A.

    Which one could they not see – your e-ticket or your reservation?
    These are 2 different entities.

    If you showed up to check-in at a counter, the agent will look at their Departure Control System (DCS) and should find your name in the list. That passenger name list is usually downloaded from the airline’s reservation system (RES) about 24 hours prior the flight’s departure.

    But the agent also checks whether you have an open (unused)  e-ticket (coupon) for that flight (and hopefully you are taking the flights in their proper order). The airlines maintain an e-ticket database and the status of the e-ticket coupons are updated as they are used.

    The agent can always ADD your name to the list.
    But if they can’t find an open coupon (eticket) then you have no proof you paid, so they won’t let you fly. Not unless you give them a credit card and pay at the counter.

  • Bogus

    I was talking to a friend who works in customer service for an airline about this and she asked me: “Did the Dr who helped at the end of this person’s life or the Funeral Home give a discount because there was a death (or impending death) in the family?” It sounds heartless but it’s a good question. These are services and there is a cost to do something last minute be it a trip to the emergency room or a flight. 

  • Tony A.

    Exactly Rich. The OP was insistent on arguing about the existence of BEREAVEMENT fares instead of computing and comparing what it would actually cost her. For some reason they think bereavement fares are cheap. But as you know they are wrong.

    If they walk up to an airline counter, they can buy the cheapest *available* FARE BASIS for a flight that day. It does not necessarily mean it is a Y class fare.

    But bereavement fares are designed to give the survivor the FLEXIBILITY of an UNRESTRICTED FARE. And usually, that means a Y class fare.

    Let’s take Delta for example. Here are the one-way fares for departure TODAY 15NOV:

    FARE BASIS       FARE    CLASS
     1  KA00A0NA    194.00   K
     2  QA00A0UJ    229.00   Q
     3  HA00A0OJ    293.00   H
     4  HA00A0OJ    362.00   HPI
     5  MA00A0VA   441.00   PMD
    8  BA00A0OJ    604.00  BPD
    14  Y0             759.00   Y 
    15  F0             895.00   FYC
    16  YUP           895.00   YPC
    17  Y             1423.00   Y 
    18  C             1565.00   YCJ
    19  F             1864.00   FYC

    If a flight has available K class seats then you can have it for $194 plus tax. Here’s one with 2 K class seats available:

    15NOV-TU-1221P MKCORL CT ET  SEE-WL
    1*S#DL4688  K2   MCIMEM  445P 611P  *8 CRJ 0E
    2*S#DL2199  K2   MEMMCO  748P1050P   7 M80 0E
     
    The ticket will cost $210.90 with tax included.
    FBC ADT KA00A0NA
    ADT MKC DL X/MEM DL ORL 180.47USD180.47END DL ZPMCIMEM XT5.00AY  4.50XF MCI4.5
     TX 13.53US 7.40ZP 5.00AY 4.50XF

    But the OP probably wanted the non-stop flight which only Southwest offered. Well, that would cost $440~ when purchased from the counter and only $188 if bought ONLINE (web only).

    If she CALLED Delta. she may have been offered a bereavement fare of 50% off Y class. Note there is a cheaper Y0 fare which is also Y class. After tax, she will be paying more than $400 one-way. That’s double what she would pay had she simply walked up to the Delta counter.

    I am afraid to say that all those here who side with her ire towards Southwest may be using too much emotions. The fact is if she simply walked to the other airlines she could have paid half of what she paid WN. And, if she went to Southwest website, she could have got the nonstop flight for $188.

    No one is entitled to the lowest available fare if they don’t want to think and shop around. That includes grieving folks.

  • Tony A.

    Kayak could have found that, too. This type of point-to-point travel is a no brainer.

  • Linda Bator

    Amen!  I hate to belittle the client, but BOOHOO – there’s been a death in the family — so fly me for FREE!   This was NOT an outrageous sum, and if she had even compared it to the other airlines, I’m sure she’d have seen it as a deal.  Just because a company may have deep pockets doesn’t mean they have to keep letting you put your hands in them!

  • Linda Bator

    I think she’s just building up an image of bad customer service because she DIDN’T get the lower fare she hoped for.  3 seats left on the flight — she’s lucky she got to the funeral at all!

  • Linda Bator

    If you want to blame someone for a lack of bereavement fares – don’t blame the airlines, blame the customers.  I worked for years at United, and I can’t tell you how many bogus requests we got — all because someone figured they could save a buck and rip off the airline.

  • tomRI

    A name in an obit in a newspaper does not mean anything now.  In my local paper you have to pay to have your obit listed and it is always 2-3 days later. 

  • Anna

    …and the cruel, evil, heartless SWA agent even told her to check the website for a better deal. Sigh.

  • Linda Bator

    But they’r ENTITLED people!  We should all bow down to them and kiss their ###.   Forget the whiners, Chris!

  • Ajaynejr

    What would the relatives living in or near Orlando have done if you had instructed them to delay the funeral so you could shop around for better airfares?

  • Rachel

     I think that it’s more because last minute travelers are less price-sensitive (as well as supply and demand) rather than just because they are business travelers.
    Not really unintended consequences, because both (and all other?) groups who want to travel at the last minute are more price-sensitive, but business travelers are the ones that people think of first.

  • DavidZ

    Yup. It depends on what’s to be heartless about, though, especially if there’s no like cosmic law or agreement defining or dictating what specific behavior.

  • Bob

    I think the OP just wanted a big discount, regardless of the fare. I would be willing to bet that the OP would have been very satisfied if the situation went as follows:

    OP: Hello, I need a one way ticket for the next available flight to MCO.
    WN: Ok, let’s see…that’s going to be $600.
    OP: Oh, well actually I’m travelling for a funeral. Is there a bereavement discount available?
    WN: Actually yes there is. It’ll be $441 for a bereavement fare.
    OP: Ok great. Here’s my credit card.

  • http://ontariotravelbureau.com Laurie

    Hi Chris: I know it may be hard to find, but tell people to check with a good travel agent. I just read your article and found a round-trip to Daytona Beach (not too terribly far from Orlando) departing tomorrow and returning on Sunday – rournd-trip $325.30. We do charge a fee, and if they had to check in luggage, there would be a fee from the airline. Southwest has never offered bereavement fares. Their only discount on trips departing in less than a week are Sr. citizen fares, for which you need to be 65. However, any good travel agent could have found this for them, and they would have avoided a lot of aggrivation. Sometimes you need to think “out of the BOX” and that is what an experienced agent can do for you.

  • The Good Doctor

    And those who simply cannot will pay $441 for a last-minute walk-up ticket to Orlando.  Think of it as an emotional baggage fee.

  • The Good Doctor

    Or maybe she was watching an old rerun of Seinfeld.

  • Snoopy1127

    I like the idea that you are willing to advocate for bereavement , but at the same time if you  would just educate us with the appropriate info on how to handle something like this, it might keep a very large burden off your shoulders.  Thank you.  Always willing to learn!

  • flutiefan

    i didn’t realize typing “southwest.com” or “kayak.com” or even “expedia.com” into your browser was so time consuming…

  • Scapel

    No, because someone will start taking advantage of you.

  • internet marketing belgium

    interesting article..information

  • DavidDINO

    Earlier this year I had to rearrange a business trip because of a death in my colleague’s family. Delta CSR explained their bereavement policy: obtain name of deceased, funeral home and phone number to obtain discount consideration. This seems very reasonable and I was grateful that even though I was not an immediate family member, Delta gave me a break on reticketing a later itinerary. 

    Hopefully others will find Delta’s policy fair and reasonable. It is nice also to recognize some dinosaur airlines are “Compassionate” instead of coldly “Heartless.”

  • DavidDINO

    Who returns to the business that has gouged them mercilessly? Why would you subject yourself or your client to excesses by airlines that take advantage of your situation when it poses no extra burden on them. They know we are desperate, so our vulnerability becomes their opportunity. 

    Not me! Gouge me once, and I’ll honor your competition hereafter.

    Airlines try to “earn” our loyalty with favorable service experiences, so it makes PERFECT BUSINESS SENSE that they offer REASONABLE discounts to passengers with special legitimate needs!! 

    Case in point: Delta recently explained their bereavement policy: obtain name of deceased, funeral home and phone number to obtain discount consideration. 

    Hopefully others will find Delta’s policy fair and reasonable. It is nice to recognize some dinosaur airlines are “Compassionate” instead of coldly “Heartless.” All airlines owe it to their customers and creditors to be REASONABLE!!!

  • Alvin dougherty

    tickets purchased 6/20/11 round trip,phl to savanah,ga for family reunion.i was hospitalized at that time with babesiois and lime desease from tick bite. delta airline would not refund or allow me to transfer my tictet to a family member,allowing me 1 year to use.i will be 82 1/8/2012 and without a family member to travel with,i dont feel comfortable traveling. 

  • Sadie Cee

    Air Canada also offers bereavement fares.  Full details are listed on their Web site – http://www.aircanada.ca. 

  • Sadie Cee

    Air Canada also offers bereavement fares.  Full details are listed on their Web site – http://www.aircanada.ca. 

  • Sadie Cee

    Very well said!