Kicked off a flight because of a dogfight

This flight went to the dogs. / Photo by Jden Red - Flickr
Mention the word “pets” and “planes” and it’s enough to start a dogfight.

That’s exactly what happened to Marilyn Bruno, who was flying from Miami to Boston on American Airlines recently. Bruno is allergic to dogs — technically, it’s a class 3 allergy, which is relatively mild and doesn’t require her to travel with an epinephrine pen.

When she boarded flight 452, she found an unexpected passenger had joined her.

I was getting ready to sit down in seat 14A when I heard the barking of a dog under my seat.

I stood up and told the young man and woman sitting in seats 15A and 15B that I was allergic to their dog because I immediately felt the first symptoms of an allergy attack.

I rang for the flight attendant to change my seat.

The dog owners started laughing and shouting loudly to the other passengers how cute their dog was and how it would not hurt anyone.

Uh-oh. A crewmember tried to separate the feuding passengers.

The flight attendant changed my seat to 10B, which I thanked her for. I said I was going to take a Claritin, but would have starting taking it the day before if I had known a dog was going to be on board.

She explained that the owners paid for the dog in the cabin and there was no policy to warn passengers.

I thanked the flight attendant again for changing my seat and told her that I had an epinephrine pen (Epipen) with me, so I expected no problems even in the event of an allergy attack.

Problem solved? Unfortunately, no. In fact, things were about to get much worse. I’ll let Bruno explain.

The flight attendant went somewhere and came back saying that Claritin was not enough.

She asked to see the Epipen, which I voluntarily showed her.

I told her that my allergy was classified as a Class 3, and that my doctor had assured me that there was no need for an Epipen even in the event of a dog allergy.

The flight attendant became very agitated, as if I had shown her a lethal weapon.

She left and came back with a man and two women from the terminal. One of the women, told me that I had to get off the plane and that she would get me on the next flight, which left at 10 a.m.

Bruno told the trio that was unnecessary, and that she was medically fit to fly. Also, she had an 11 a.m. meeting in Boston, which she would miss.

At that point, the airline representatives accused her of delaying the flight’s departure (Bruno says passengers were still boarding the flight). They threatened to have her arrested if she did not disembark the flight immediately.

“I said that I had important meetings in Boston that I could not reschedule, that this treatment was discriminatory,” she says. “Rather than listen to what I was saying, I was physically kicked off [the flight]. Another American Airlines employee who had come from the terminal got my carryon bags.”

American eventually rebooked her on another flight and she flew to Boston without incident. But Bruno wants to know if she’s entitled to anything for her hardship.

“I missed being picked up at the airport, and missed the crucially important meeting that had taken over a month to set up,” she says. “The meeting could not be rescheduled since the principals left Boston, so my subsequent meetings were also cancelled. My entire trip to Boston was a waste of time and money. My meeting has not been rescheduled.”

This is one of those cases where I thought I needed American’s side of the story before I wrote anything about it — even if the end result is that I couldn’t mediate it. I asked the airline to review its record from the flight. It hasn’t responded.

Strictly speaking, American fulfilled its end of the bargain. Its contract of carriage requires that it transport Bruno from Miami to Boston, which it did.

Just hearing her side of the story, it sounds as if American made several mistakes with this incident. Moving Bruno to another seat was the right call, but I wonder where the flight attendant got her M.D. from? And forcing her off the flight — that seems like a TSA tactic, not the behavior of an airline that cares about its customers.

But as I said, I don’t have the full story. Given what we do know, should I advocate for Bruno? And if so, what is she entitled to?

Update (11:30 a.m.): Received this update from American Airlines via Twitter: “Thanks for your interest in this issue. The situation was thoroughly investigated and we’ve communicated with the customer.” Sounds like the case is closed, as far as AA is concerned.

  • Lindabator

    But airlines DO allow animals in the cabin, and the dog was not the problem here – her reference to the “class 3″ allergy and the use of an epi-pen were – they were being responsible and removing her from a potentially dangerous situation.

  • TonyA_says

    Sorry Erin, but the National Institute of Health disagrees with your statement:

    Epinephrine injection is used to treat life-threatening allergic reactions caused by insect bites, foods, medications, latex, and other causes. Symptoms of allergic reaction include wheezing, shortness of breath, low blood pressure, hives, itching, swelling, stomach cramps, diarrhea, and loss of bladder control. Epinephrine is in a class of medications called sympathomimetic agents. It works by relaxing the muscles in the airways and tightening the blood vessels.

    Source: http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmedhealth/PMH0000211/

  • Lindabator

    But small pets ARE allowed in the cabin, and the airline did the responsible thing in this case – she referenced her “class 3″ allergy and epi-pen, and they were simply avoiding a potential medical problem by moving her to another flight which would have been a better choice for her.

  • MarkieA

    Here’s a question. I’m on a flight, PB&J for lunch, packet of peanuts for a snack, and a big ole cup of peanut juice – just for affect :) – for a drink. Lady announces loudly that she’s gonna have me arrested if I dare to open this lunch up in front of her nut-allergey son. Now, I have hypo-glycemia; I have to eat something during a 3-hour flight. Does she pay for my “approved” airline-provided – if there is one – lunch, now? Do I? Does the airline? Just a question.

  • Lindabator

    True – if her allergy IS that bad, removing the dog would have done no gone, as the allergens are still there on the flight (ask peanut allergy sufferers).  So it only makes sense to remove the one who can potentially suffer a medical emergency while still in the air.

  • Brian

    To me the dog is the problem.  I admit, I don’t fly as much as some on here, but I have yet to see a dog on a plane.  It would honestly never occur to me as even being a possibility.  To my knowledge, now corrected, they travel in the hold.  Well, mostly, service animals which are far better trained would fly in the cabin. 

  • Brian

     Yes, they made the choice.  Since that choice caused her to miss the sole purpose of her meeting, they owe her a refund. 

    Further, before anybody says she didn’t allow enough time, I agree.  Again, had it been for a reasonable issue that she was delayed, such as mechanical problems, fine.  This was their stupidity and they need to pay.

    On a side note, knowing AA allows non-service animals on a plane will certainly cause me to never fly with them again.  Admittedly, I don’t often fly AA, but this would be the nail in that coffin.

  • Brian

     No, the lesson is don’t allow pets with passengers unless required by law.  Who wants to fly with someone’s non-service animal? 

    The other lesson is not to overreact like AA did.  

  • TonyA_says

    Neither, if the airplane is big enough to put lots of separation between them. Most people with allergies to airborne dander, pollen, etc. can reduce their chances of getting an attack by wearing an N95 (or finer) mask. I suffer from pollen allergies (currently high in CT) so I wear a mask when I mow the lawn. I also take 2 Benadryl capsules before I go out and do yard work. As a precaution, I take my puffer (life saving) with me.

  • Joe_D_Messina

    Dammit Jim, I’m a flight attendant, not a doctor!  (Sorry, I just had to use that!)

    The FAs aren’t doctors and only know what they’re told and what they observe with their own eyes. And the contradiction between “it’s minor” and “here’s my special medication  in case I have an attack on this flight” without a doubt played a part in making this decision. That’s not “blaming” the OP, it’s simply acknowledging the information they had to work from.

    They can take a person at their word only up to the point where they doubt that word. After that, they need to do the math on how many people get inconvenienced if something goes wrong. Here, it amounted to one person having their schedule messed up versus a possible in-flight medical emergency and everybody’s schedules being messed up.

    Did they overreact?  Maybe. But I’m certain what they wanted to hear when they moved the OP was “Thanks, my allergies are minor, everything is okay now.” Instead, they got talk of emergency medications and possible attacks in flight. If the OP thought that was almost certainly not going to happen, they shouldn’t have mentioned it. 

  • Lindabator

    But they didn’t discriminate – her specifying a legitimate medical situation CAN and WILL get you removed from a potentially dengerous situation (such as this allergic reaction escalating while in the air, and any use of an epi-pen is not a panacea, but a first step before medical treatment – making it very dangerous for her to fly).  They moved her to another flight which would have assured no chance of an allergic reaction, and a far safer environment.  And the airlines ARE allowed to make that call.

  • Lindabator

    Again, they would most likely have moved the one with the allergy, as just removing a dog might not be enough to stave off an allergic reaction – they do err on the side of safety.

  • Lindabator

    I think the passenger caused her own problem – you don’t refer to your “class 3″ allergy, and your having an epi-pen and expect this doesn’t escalate.  They would definately want to remove her, as the even if they did remove the dog, if her allergy is that bad, the dander would have still caused a potential problem, so moving HER to a safer flight was the right call.  She should merely have said that she gets sniffles and swollen eyes – and never brought up the rest.

  • TonyA_says

    It seems to me the airline should have removed the ANTIGEN, the source of the irritant – THE DOG. By not having done so, the discriminated on an allergy sufferer (a disability). Nevertheless, where is the letter from AA? They are supposed to give her an explanation.

  • Lindabator

    Because they are not usually well equipped for small pets in the cargo hold (they do NOT do well).

  • Lindabator

    Because it is actully far more dangerous in the hold than in the cabin, especially for smaller animals.

  • ExplorationTravMag

    I knew it could be said.  It just had to be said by someone outside my head!  I think the voices were just too loud this morning.

  • Lindabator

    Actually, its not a matter of priority, but safety.  Once exposed to the allergens, merely removing the dog may not have been enough.  Since she made the production out of it, they were more concerned than if she just would have said she gets a runny nose and eyes in these situations.  They merely erred on safety’s side, because if she had problems in the air, she could very well have died from this situation, and then where would she be?

  • Lindabator

    I know those mornings well!  :)

  • ExplorationTravMag

    And I think THIS is what I was actually trying to get across, rather unsuccessfully.

    BTW – Dammit Jim, I’m a flight attendant, not a doctor!

    Good one!

  • Lindabator

    Actually, Tony, as someone who has had to use this epi-pen for asthma attacks, I can CLEARLY state is is a TEMPORARY measure, and not a true treatment.  Yes, it can open the airways, but is not permanent, and not always effective.  If her airways had closed and the pen didn’t work, she would never have survived the flight.  By bringing up the lack of meds early enough, the epi-pen and classifying the the type of allergy, she raised their alertness to this situation, and the only logical and SAFE thing to do was to offer her another flight where the situation would not be present.

  • Lindabator

    I don’t care for pets in the cabin either, but they are a fact of life.  She made too much of this to someone who took her seriously, and unfortunately, caused her own problems.  They erred on the side of safety, and she erred in bringing up the Claritin, ep-pen and classification issues.

  • Lindabator

    But it still would not have answered this passenger’s problem.  If her allergy was severe, she could likely STILL have had problems, even once the pet was removed — she made a big deal out of her condition, was taken seriously, and the airline sided with her safety – they did the only thing they could to ensure her safe travel.

  • Lindabator

    But by making her classification, the fact she didn’t take the Claritin early enough, and that she did have the pen probably convinced them she had a legitimate medical problem best to be avoided.  She escalated this situation, and they erred on the side of safety.  Can’t really blame them in this case.

  • y_p_w

    http://www.walmart.com/ip/Equate-Fexofenadine-HCL-Allergy-Relief-Twin-Pack-180mg-2pk/16935934
    http://www.costco.com/Browse/Product.aspx?Prodid=11627103&search=allegra&Mo=1&cm_re=1_en-_-Top_Left_Nav-_-Top_search&lang=en-US&Nr=P_CatalogName:BC&Sp=S&N=5000043&whse=BC&Dx=mode+matchallpartial&Ntk=Text_Search&Dr=P_CatalogName:BC&Ne=4000000&D=allegra&Ntt=allegra&No=0&Ntx=mode+matchallpartial&Nty=1&topnav=&s=1

    I tried taking the full 180 mg generic, but have issues with getting a bit jittery.  I asked a pharmacist if there was an issue with splitting the tablets, and he said that it’s not time release and I should have no issues.  I remember when I used to get Allegra as a prescription, and it came as a powder in a gelatin capsule.

    The same pharmacist said that I could still get a prescription for generic Fexofenadine, but that it would probably have to be paid out of pocket, and would cost more than the generic OTC, which should be identical.  However, that would have been the only way they could get the 60 mg versions, if that’s what I wanted.

    Right now I just buy the generic (not at cheap as generic loratadine but not too expensive) and split the tablets.  It’s probably more than the standard 60 mg 12 hour dose (which is hard to find OTC but I’ve seen it).  I hear the primary manufacturers of the generic versions are Teva in Israel and Dr. Reddy in India.

    If anyone has a serious issue with allergies, then something like diphenhydramine or chlorphernamine are considerably more effective.  I understand that an alternative to an epi-pen can be a megadose of diphenhydramine.  Something like 8 25 mg doses is generally safe but well above the recommended dose for regular allergies.

  • Michael__K

    Again, being prepared for an unlikely worst case should be a virtue — not grounds to open the door for the flight crew to “doubt” you and reach their own assumptions about things they (likely) have have no expertise in.

    If they asked her and she didn’t have an EpiPen, then I bet we’d have lots of second-guessers who would criticize her for NOT having one.

    The crew does have the prerogative to refuse transport to anyone.  But in that case they should own the decision and not make any excuses (e.g. “the passenger made me do it because her EpiPen alarmed me.”)

  • travelagentman

    I suspect that the needle is the problem. She was asked to show the epi pen, and it may not have been clear what it was. I ran into that problem in Paris with an insulin pen, but had no proof of what was in the syringe. It took 2 hours to get the authorization to board. Always carry a copy of the perscription and the box to prove everything when it comes to needles. It is a very sensitive TSA problem.

  • KellyCQ

    Using an epipen is not as casual as taking a Benedryl. It is a temporary lifesaving measure for someone experiencing anaphalaxis that requires emergency follow-up care.  It’s not something you take to make you fell better – it’s something you inject to prolong your life until you get to the emergency room.  The OP’s non-chalant response of “No-worries, you can just make an emergency landing and have some paramedics meet us on the tarmac after I inject myself,” was not an appropriate response to the FA any more than making a bomb threat.

  • twres

    Not all animals can go in the cargo area of a plane.  Most carriers have a policy that if it is over 85 degrees in either the departure or arrival city, the animal cannot go in the cargo hold.  A lot of destionations are over that temperature this time of year.  It is not ideal to take an animal on a plane, but sometimes there are circumstances where it is necessary.  It’s also not ideal to take babies on a plane, but sometimes that is necessary too.  You just have to put up with those inconveniences when traveling with the public.

  • bodega3

    Most domestic carriers allow nonservice dogs/cats of a certain size in the cabin, but must fit in a container and be under the seat. And there is a hefty fee in each direction for this. Southwest allows animals in the cabin now, too.  The newer change is the ‘medical need’ which allows for the animal to be on the passengers lap.  A friend just got her approval for this and IMHO it is bogus and she is just going nuts! 

  • Lindabator

    But it may not have been enough if she was TRULY that bad – which is why they err on the side of safety – by moving her to another flight ALLERGEN free.  And allergies are NOT a disability – they are a PITA, I admit (hate when mine flare up) – but she needed to be responsibile for herslef – if pets in the cabin were that much of a problem – she should have callled the airline ahead of time to ensure a pet-free flight.

  • bodega3

    I had a message come across in the client’s PNR that she was being held pending medical evaluation.  Spoke to her daugher the next day and the passenger was feeling light headed at the gate and due to her age, the carrier denied her boarding until the airport medical staff came to the gate and checked her out.  Not allowing a passenger to fly due to health concerns it permited.

  • http://profile.yahoo.com/GMRYPXCKA2NA5TNI3QRGAVBUHA Thomas

    What will they do next?  throw those of us who bring malaria medicine with us off the plane because it causes a PR problem in that all is not as pictured in their tropical aisles?

  • judyserienagy

    This is DEFINITELY a mediation case!  Poor woman, how could she know that being honest and upfront would cause so much trouble?  The FA should have just moved her and left it at that.  Hearing about these kinds of incidents lead to all kinds of evasive behaviour on the part of the paying passenger.  I remember a non-functioning seatbelt on a full flight … was I going to report it and get escorted off the flight?  No way!  Little question that AA just couldn’t take a chance on a legal liability problem, so made sure there wasn’t one.  Ugh, how dumb.

  • http://twitter.com/erinboyle05 Erin Boyle

    Epinephrine, yes, is a treatment for a life-threatening allergic reaction, but an Epi-pen is not.  As per the Epi-pen patient instrustions: 

    “If you have an allergic reaction (anaphylaxis) use the Epi-pen or Epi-pen Jr auto injector right away and immediately go to your doctor or emergency room for more medical treatment.”  Further, and in bold letters, “IMMEDIATELY AFTER USE Go Immediately to the nearest emergency room or call 911.” http://files.epipenprc.gethifi.com/how-to-use-epipen/03-855-00_-_NGAPatient_Insert_cropped.pdf

    Epinephrine clears the body rather rapidly (10-20 min) when compared to other medications, where as the biological processes involved in the reaction can go on for hours.  It is not uncommon for a patient in anaphylaxis to be hooked up to a slow, diluted epinephrine drip while also being prescribed steroids and/or antihistamines.  Also, as epinephrine increases heart and breathing rates and well as can increase blood pressure, medical observation is necessary to make sure the patient does not have a cardiac episode.

  • Michael__K

    You again mis-characterize the OP’s words (which I quoted for you).

    And if carrying an EpiPen is such a danger sign that it is akin to making a bomb threat, then maybe AA’s contract ought to prohibit any passengers with EpiPen’s (though as TonyA points out, that would probably be discriminatory and illegal)

    If carrying an EpiPen on board is permitted, then you shouldn’t need to hide it.   Telling a crew member that you are carrying one just in case isn’t justification for crew members to panic.

  • Rebecca O`Shaughnessy

    I’m getting the same vibe as you off of the OP, based on the language and tone of her emails that were quoted. I have a feeling she had an attitude with the flight attendant, who took her seriously (and almost certainly knew in the back of her head that it wasn’t THAT serious). I am guessing that she got what she deserved and the crew and passengers that heard her had a good laugh once she was off the plane.

    I also think that AA’s lack of response is pretty telling. They most likely don’t want to put in writing the OP’s rude behavior and/or open the potential for a lawsuit. I have the feeling, just like others have posted, that she is the type who is always looking for a “settlement.” We have a commercial here in Chicago for a personal injury firm that actually states, and I am quoting, to call them to find out “what’s your case worth.”

  • http://twitter.com/erinboyle05 Erin Boyle

    Yes, she was moved to another location, but she also complained that the airline never notified her that a dog would be on board (which, if they did, would have been a story onto itself).  Mentioning that she had the Epi-pen is what her problem was.  It seems like the flight attendant may not have any experience with them or people carrying them and over reacted.  But, in the flight attendent’s defense, with the passenger already having a reaction and carrying the pen (which means that any reaction could develop into a bad one), she was a liability.

    And no, I wouldn’t have laughed.  I would have rolled my eyes and handed her my spare Benedryl.

  • Brian

    Babies are little humans.  I have no issue with them whatsoever.  They can be annoying, but we’ve all been in the parent’s shoes.  I can think of no reason why you MUST move a pet in a cabin.  Surely they have alternative pet transportation services. 

    Not everyone loves pets and this is a place for people to travel – not animals.  

  • http://twitter.com/johntbaker John Baker

    If you can find it, the children’s version is 30mg on a 12hr cycle (instead of the standard adult dose of one 180mg per 24 hours)

  • Michael__K

    She is ultimately responsible for her own safety, and she was satisfied with her new seat and demonstrated that she was equipped to handle even a (highly unexpected) allergy emergency.

    I’m willing to bet that if a crew member asked her if she had an EpiPen and she said “no” then we’d have plenty of second-guessers criticizing her for NOT carrying one.

    If the crew still decides to disregard her POV and “err on the side of safety” then that’s their prerogative but they should completely own that decision themselves, and perhaps offer the passenger something for being inconvenienced.  Rather than blaming the passenger for “causing her own problems.”

  • TonyA_says

    Our pulmonologist did not give my kids an epipen but we all travel with our puffers (quick-acting rescue inhaler). My youngest has had 2 or 3 (can’t remember exactly) life threatening incidents where we had rushed him to the emergency room (and needed a long stay). As far as I know, epipen is not really indicated for asthma attacks (bronchospasm) while a short-acting beta agonist  (i.e. Albuterol) or Ipratropium (Atrovent) or a corticosteroid is. Additional Oxygen also helps.  However, an epipen would be very useful for food allergies or a bee sting.

    Here’s what gets me. If the OP was really suffering an asthma attack, then why not call EMTs to give her oxygen while helping her out of the plane? It sounds like moving her farther from the dog calmed her down and was working. In other words, her physical symptoms did not seem to warrant any further caution. But then she mentioned the E word. If one shows a syringe, breathing machine, or portable oxygen device to a flight attendant, then it triggers an alarm. Are you gonna die on my flight (or watch)? No way, get out of here, now!

    But that’s one reason why we have Part 382. It does give persons with disabilities some rights. While it does not remove the authority of the captain to kick someone out of the flight, there is a price to pay if s/he does so in a way that violates this law. And that to me is the gist of this case. Did the airline crew, overreact and exercise poor judgement by kicking her out of the flight? If AA did not give her a written explanation within 10 days, then that is a sign that AA has no valid reason to kick her out because of her disability.

  • Joe_D_Messina

    I see where you’re coming from, but again there’s a difference between being prepared and how you convey your preparation to people.  Doing it poorly can have the opposite effect of what you want.

    On routine approach I don’t want the pilot making the announcement “Wanted you all to know that I’m totally ready to handle things if our landing gear should fail to deploy.”

     

  • Raven_Altosk

    Ah, but they all have to carry “emotional support animals” because of how ADA is written. These animals serve no purpose but as “security blankets” to their “fragile” owners.

    And, most are not properly documented–ie: naughty person downloaded some nonsense on the interwebbs.

    So basically, you’re not flying any airline thanks to these “rule benders” and flargrant liars.

  • Raven_Altosk

    Well, I just read an article about a guy who has a “service mini-horse” and takes it on planes. THE HELL!?!?!?

    http://www.guidehorse.com/news_minis_fly.htm

    Why does this Special Snowflake need a HORSE instead of a DOG!??!?

  • Raven_Altosk

    Good question. I fly enough to encounter the occassional peanut allergy. I’ve noticed they are most prevalent on trips to/from MCO, but even then, pretty rare. Normally, they make an annoucement, but I don’t think they could “stop” anyone from consuming food they brought on board.

    One woman even handed out “safe” candy bars to those of us seated nearby with a little sticker saying, “My son is allergic to peanuts. Please don’t eat any peanut products on this flight. Sorry for the inconveience, but have some chocolate that’s safe!”

    This one mother was just NUTS. (pun intended) Yeah, arrest me, you idiot. o_O

  • Raven_Altosk

    Great. Now I’ll be seated next to an “emotional support” snake that’s not even in a cage.

    I WANT THIS MFing SNAKE OFF THIS MFing PLANE!!!

  • TonyA_says

    Epipen is a BRAND of epinephrine. Why do you think lots of peanut allergy sufferers in elementary school have this ready to go injection? Same with bee folks.

  • NoJets

    Actually, service horses (ponies) can be a better value because of their longer life expectancy and if a  disabled person is allergic to dogs..well….

  • TonyA_says

    Michael, what is a class 3 allergy and what are its implications? I can’t seem to find anything in google.