Here we go again! Another tarmac stranding incident — beware of outraged talking heads on TV

It seemed eerily familiar: A JetBlue aircraft, a freak storm, passengers stranded on an aircraft for hours — and all happened near the media capital of the world.

Except that it wasn’t Valentines Day 2007, the infamous ice storm that cost JetBlue its golden reputation, made a small-minded mainstream media obsessed with tarmac delays and led to tough but largely unnecessary new government rules on tarmac delays.

It was happening right now, in real time.

I was alerted to the stranding incident yesterday evening, when Marc Mucklow, a director for an office supply chain in Palm Beach, Fla., left a comment on my site saying he’d been trapped on a JetBlue plane in Hartford, Conn., for more than five hours.

He was taking me to task for a column in which I suggested we were going overboard with proposed new laws against tarmac delays.

“So much for it not still happening,” he wrote about the delays.

I’ll deal with Mucklow’s comment in a minute. But first let’s review a few details of this incident.

There’s a massive Nor’easter moving up the East Coast and the JetBlue flight was caught in it.

Let’s go straight to the tape.

Here’s what we know: The nightmare began when Flight 504 from Fort Lauderdale to Newark couldn’t land because of low visibility. After circling the airport, the flight was diverted to Hartford.

Once the flight landed, JetBlue tried to refuel the aircraft and return it to Newark. But it was unable to move the aircraft back on to the runway, and as a result, it went nowhere between 2 p.m. and 9 p.m. Here’s a play-by-play by someone who was on the plane.

Most of the passengers took the delay with good humor, even as the flight ran out of food and the toilets overflowed. But a few were understandably outraged.

“Everybody is freaking out here,” one traveler reportedly said. “They’re tired of it.”

JetBlue issued a statement yesterday evening apologizing for the incident, saying it was doing “everything possible” to ensure its customers were being cared for. (Update: JetBlue has posted an explanation on its blog.)

But JetBlue’s apology rings somewhat hollow, because it is in effect taking responsibility for the weather and for other circumstances that appear to be completely beyond its control. A massive snowstorm had hit the New York area. The airport reportedly wouldn’t tow the plane back to the runway.

“They have done everything they could,” one passenger told a Miami NBC affiliate, when asked about the airline’s efforts. “It is not JetBlue’s fault.”

I think everyone understands that tarmac delays won’t ever go away. (And, for the record, I’ve never claimed they’d been eliminated.) But the fact is they were — and still are — exceedingly rare.

Are they worth the government’s legislative scrutiny? Maybe. But there are many, many other issues that are more pressing and affect far more travelers, from price transparency to federal pre-emption. Some would have us believe this isn’t just the most pressing issue affecting air travelers — it is the only issue worthy of our attention.

And here’s the scary part. (After all, it is Halloween tomorrow.) Get ready for an earful of nonsense from self-appointed consumer advocates in heavy pancake makeup during the next news cycle. CNN has you on speed dial.

These so-called “experts” will tell us that the government must pass laws that would prevent tarmac delays. It’s an incredibly naive and simplistic solution to a complex problem. By most accounts I’ve heard, this latest tarmac incident was unavoidable. No law could have made the plane move any faster.

I sympathize with those who were trapped on the plane. It’s a horrible experience. Truly horrible.

But expecting us to drop everything to pursue another useless law — that would be the real horror.

(Photo: D R ust/Flickr)

  • Michael K

    Airport ground operations (including airport and airline personnel) need to be prepared to deal with these situations.  This is no less important than airport security screening IMO.  Are we going to wait for an incident with preventable passenger deaths before we require the thorough emergency planning that’s needed to deal with this scenario?

    Secondarily, as long as some airports are not adequately prepared, then airlines should “blacklist” those airports and make every effort to divert elsewhere (i.e. at well-equipped airports only) if they can safely do so.

  • flutiefan

    and i experienced that holy hell on Saturday.

  • flutiefan

    and THAT’S actually not correct.  it all depends on where the plane is when they get the diversion call. ATC makes the ultimate choice.

  • flutiefan

    :)

  • flutiefan

    Trvlnby, i was with you until the last 2 sentences. Linda is right.  at the time of takeoff from FL, the weather was not anticipated to hit for several hours. ATC gave them the go-ahead, and yes they huddle with the NYC ATC before allowing such a thing. how was anyone to know the cold front would swoop in without warning so quickly? i was literally wearing short sleeves when it hit! i thought i’d have hours to go get my coat!  why WOULDN’T JetBlue operate this flight when it was just expected to be brisk here in NYC?

  • Ann919

    JetBlue has a bunch of exec who make north of $500,000 plus stock. I would suggest they talk to all airports under their routes and all the politicans in DC/FAA to ensure JetBlue passengers never again get dumped at an airport that can’t service the planes.

    See, jetBlue can actually learn how to run their biz without jailing its passengers. Or the CEO can learn how to deplane customers. But the “I don”t know” attitude has to go away. Buck stops with JetBlue.

  • Bill

    Maybe Jetblue shouldn’t be fined, but someone should get their butt kicked.  This is completely and absolutely unacceptable.  What they did at 9 pm, they could have done earlier.  There’s no excuse for keeping those people on that plane so long.  Airports need to make sure they are equipped.  Airlines need to have arrangements made.  Did someone light up a cigarette on that plane?  What if someone did?  What would have happened?  Stupid mess.

  • Geoff

    State of emergency declared. Trump card – no investigation! WVU vs Rutgers was at Rutgers. There were times that you could not see the footbal. How was the pilot supposed to see or do a thing? Time to spare – go by air.

  • jbuttel

    If the problem of people being stuck on grounded aircraft can’t be fixed, why bother with anything else.  Unless those fines are imposed on airlines, no one is going to take responsibility for solving the problem.  Businesses have a way of making things work (that they say are impossible to solve) if they have an incentive.  I agree with you that in the big picture there are more compelling problems that affect many more people.  At the same time it seems like your argument is similar to saying that because only a very very small number of people die in airline crashes every year, the media attention and outrage people feel when a plane crashes are misplaced.  I’m not saying that being trapped on a plane is equivalent to crashing in one, just that your logic seems similar. 

  • http://elliott.org Christopher Elliott

    People are dying in tarmac stranding incidents? Did I miss something?

  • Trvlnby

    One thing to keep in mind is that the New York airspace is the most congested in the world and even on good days, delays are inevitable.
    No airline wants to risk having passengers or even aircraft stuck in an airport during bad weather. If you ever notice bad weather forcast for any given city, look at airline websites and you will notice cancellations into that city. Better to keep airplanes and passengers in Dallas or Atlanta, than risk what happened in Hartford. This storm had been forcast for days and may have come faster than expected, but most airlines cut their schedules and losses prior to the event.

  • gromit82

    I’m pretty sure it would have been illegal for a passenger to open the door, inflate the chutes, and deplane, without authorization. So that’s not really a viable option.

  • gromit82

    Actually, it’s called false imprisonment, not kidnapping.

  • DavidZ

    If what JetBlue said is accurate and real based on their blog:

    “We worked with the airport to secure services, but our flights were six of the 23 reported diversions into Hartford, including international flights (picture big jets carrying hundreds of people). Getting all the flights deplaned at the same time in a small airport is not unlike trying to get an elephant into a smart car; it’s not an easy fit. As if things weren’t challenging enough, the airport experienced intermittent power outages, which made refueling and jetbridge deplaning difficult (not to mention the roads there were bad, which put a wrench in getting buses to the airport to alternatively get everyone where they needed to go).”

    That’s why. Of course, it can’t be helped some people think they’re just making excuses, even if JetBlue said what’s surely accurate and real.

    What I’m probably missing is if someone from JetBlue at least told the passengers on-board what’s going on, why they can’t depart the plane ASAP, etc. Not that that will satisfy some passengers, though it turns out most of the passengers weren’t belligerent about the whole thing.

    I’m sure JetBlue’s expecting the worse, anyway, and preparing for it as much and best as they can. It’s just a shame some people still feel they don’t care enough.

    Speaking of which, what exactly is enough anyway?

  • TowerRat282

    And THAT ladies and gentlemen is the basis for the fines in the first place!!!  The airlines fear of the threat of those fines is why this flight was delayed and why you were allowed to return to the terminal and deplane.  

    5 years ago, you would have had to sit on the taxiway, or in a hammerhead and waited for the ATC to reopen the flyway.  One – two hours was COMMON in this condition, three or four hours was uncommon, but not unheard of.

    SMACK an obvious offender like this one, and the others WILL be watching.  Threats don’t work…. Money off the bottom line does.

  • Cheryl

    Instead of looking to fine the guilty and handing the money to whom (?) , what about compensating the passengers on the plane? 

  • Bodega

    There are questions that I have about preparedness airports have in place.  I flew into SFO ,at night, awhile back and the flight was a little late, nothing bad.  But there was nobody to bring the jetway to the plane to get us off.  It appeared that everyone had gone home for the night and the pilot keep requesting service for our plane.  How can they not know a plane is due to arrive? Ground personnel were there.  How can these airports not have contigency plans to get people off a plane and into the terminal, in various siutations?  How can they not have customs personnel available on call for international flights?

    It is like at a hospital.  At night, certain medical personnel are not at the facility but they are on call and get to the hospital within minutes of a notification.  Firefighters will move closer to their base if they think they may be needed and not wait for that call.  I expect this of airports, too.  Actually we need to demand it! 

    From listening to the recordings of the JetBlue pilot, it was the airport not responding to the need.

  • Unicorn1824

    As the sayings goes, you don’t ask, you don’t get…

  • Unicorn1824

    As the sayings goes, you don’t ask, you don’t get…

  • patricia murray

    Chris, you know that is NOT what he meant!

  • Richard

    Why is it always JetBlue? I think I have the reason why. The airports don’t give a crap about this particular airline, which has very little pull because its an upstart that tries to outsell the conglomerates and it doesn’t have as many flights as Southwest (which is also a cheap airline). I’ve never been on a JetBlue flight that hasn’t been at least 25th in line to go — and at most 65th!! – and Delta/United/American flights are always one, two or five. There’s definitely favoritism at work and as far as JFK is concerned JetBlue is as good as dead to them. I haven’t seen this proven wrong.

  • Richard

    In the end I’m sure after two or three hours I’d be one of those persons who pulls the shoot. At this point it’s that or going ballistic. the fine is the same for both!

  • Anonymous

    You believe yourself to be a plebeian?  Perhaps some therapy with this self-esteem issue you have might be helpful?

  • Anonymous

    You believe yourself to be a plebeian?  Perhaps some therapy with this self-esteem issue you have might be helpful?

  • Rosered

    I see this thread is a week old, and forgive me if this question has been posed, buty WHY would the ATC divert 23 jets to Hartford alone?  Was there any consideration to spread these out so that one airport would not have to handle the overload?  Yes, I understand fuel might be a problem, but for gosh sakes, we have brains we should be engaging for problems like this.

  • Michael K

    An interesting new tarmac delay story on Nov 17 2011.  I don’t think this would ever have occurred to me:

    A nearly 9-hour flight delay turned into a standoff at Hong Kong airport Wednesday, with passengers refusing to leave the plane for 5-hours until the airline agreed to higher compensation.http://business.blogs.cnn.com/2011/11/17/delayed-passengers-refuse-to-leave-plane-until-paid/