Good and evil at the TSA — and what to do about it

After a preposterously positive TSA screening experience before my flight from Hilo, Hawaii, to Maui last week, I get it. I know why the agency assigned to protect America’s transportation systems has a few fans — and an apologist or two.

The agents greeted my family with warm smiles at the screening area, asked my kids how they liked Hawaii, and then pointed us toward an empty conveyor belt. Hilo has what I like to call a “gotcha” screening setup, similar to the kind found at National Airport in Washington: you step through the magnetometer and then directly into one of those controversial full-body scanners.

If you want to opt out, you either have to make the decision before the screening process begins, or you’ll be microwaved.

The Hilo TSA agents were incredibly helpful and friendly, and they opened a second screening line — the one without the full-body scanner — for the whole family to walk through. They were patient. They even laughed at my son’s jokes.

Absurd as it may sound, the fact that I’m traveling with three young children apparently makes me less of a security risk. TSA doesn’t need me to go through a full-body scanner. But without kids, it’s either the machine or an “enhanced” pat-down.

So when I hear from travelers like Rose Yoakum who tell me about their horrific experiences with TSA screenings, I have some difficulty believing we’re talking about the same agency. Yoakum’s tale is dreadful in every way.

Flying out of Las Vegas a few weeks ago, she got into a disagreement with an agent over her carry-on liquids. Although she was polite, explaining that she had meant to check in the liquids, the screener took a different approach.

“The agent was like an in-your-face drill sergeant,” she says. “He was screaming orders at me continually, trying to humiliate me. It was demeaning.”

Instead of allowing her to go back and check her liquids, the agent “forced” Yoakum to remove the contents of her bag in plain view of the other passengers. Then another agent instructed her to throw all of her cosmetics away before she could pass through security. She says she was reduced to tears.

“There is no reason for this at all,” she told me.

She’s right; there’s no reason any screening should go like that. Ever.

Now just to be clear, it’s unreasonable to expect every TSA screener to take a personal interest in your family and make them feel like they’re waiting in line at the Magic Kingdom.

But drill sergeant? No.

You’re probably thinking I exagerrated when I referred to the TSA’s misdeeds as evil in my headline. But I wasn’t thinking of Yoakum’s trip through boot camp hell. I was thinking of the latest case against a TSA agent accused of raping a child, which is one of the purest forms of evil in the universe (see video, below).

How can an agency be so good … and yet so evil?

Some of you may think it’s naive, even unpatriotic, to be asking a question like that. After all, isn’t there good and bad in any large organization? And isn’t the TSA’s job so important that we shouldn’t second-guess what it does, at the risk of giving comfort to our enemies?

Respectfully, that’s nonsense. We have the right to a consistent screening experience by an organization of professionals, not by pedophiles and rapists. Hyperbole? Hardly. As my colleague at TSA News Blog, Lisa Simeone, noted, these incidents are so common, we could use a template to write them.

Anyone who thinks that questioning authority is unpatriotic, as some of my readers and colleagues have done from time to time, should familiarize themselves with the principles on which our country was founded. The right to speak your mind and to question authority is part of our heritage. To ask “why?” is the most patriotic thing I know to do.

You should try it sometime.

Speaking of America, we are about to elect a president, and whoever wins, one thing is clear: It’s business as usual for the TSA, a sprawling organization that many would argue has done as much harm as good to the people it’s supposed to protect.

It’s time to send a message to the newly elected president: We won’t take any more of the false choices and mission creep the TSA has confronted us with. We want reform, and we want it now.

Maybe the best way to do that is to opt out of the full-body scan en masse, which would force agents to conduct a time-consuming pat-down. Joining National Opt-Out Week is a good start, but personally, I believe every day you travel should be opt-out day.

It’s the only way to restore dignity to airport security and to ensure that the TSA is more good than evil.

  • LeeAnneClark

    As someone who has a) been sexually assaulted TWICE by overzealous, thuggish TSA screeners, b) watched my elderly disabled mother get screamed at and humiliated by bullying TSA screeners, and c) witnessed two profoundly handicapped youngsters be forced out of their wheelchairs and made to limp unassisted through the scanners while they cried in fear and their parents pleaded for mercy, there is no doubt in my mind that the TSA is an evil organization to its core. “Evil” is too good a word for what I’ve seen.

    Let’s not forget the literally HUNDREDS of TSA screeners who have been arrested for crimes ranging from rape to theft to pedophilia. Or the mothers who have been forced to drink or irradiate their breastmilk, or be subjected to punitive detainment. Or the senior citizens who’ve been strip-searched, had diapers removed, or had medical devices compromised. The list of TSA’s horrific crimes against innocent Americans is so long, it can’t even be summarized in one article. There are too many of them.

    The TSA will, of course, tell you these are all “one-offs”. The fallacy with that argument is, of course, that the very nature of a “one-off” is that it is an anomaly that only happens – now pay attention here – only once. Yet these crimes are happening DAILY, and are standard practice performed by uneducated, ill-trained low-paid workers to fulfill this agency’s warped, inane mission. Complaints and reports of TSA abuse are pouring out of airports…and we only hear a small fraction of them. Most people subjected to these unconstitutional gropings just grit their teeth and bite their tongues so they can get through the ordeal, and then let it go.

    Women are being forced to let strangers touch their breasts and labia, or threatened with removal from the airport. Parents are being forced to either allow their teenage daughters to have their genitals touched by strangers, or be PROSECUTED! And the crimes continue.

    Queue the “it hasn’t happened to me, so that means it’s not happening” posts in 3…2…1…

  • Ed Boston

    “isn’t there good and bad in any large organization?”

    Yes. There is good and bad in any large organization. The difference between the TSA and other large organizations is “accountability”. If you hired another large organization to do the same job the TSA is doing and they didn’t have the immunity from prosecution like the TSA has, they wouldn’t last very long in that role before the courts shut them down.

  • TSAisTerrorism

    Speaking of good and evil actors in large organizations, let’s talk about the Walt Disney Company for a moment, and specifically their Walt Disney World Resort in Orlando, FL. You see, there are at least as many employees in that organization’s one division/location as there are in the entire TSA. Wrap your head around that for a minute.

    And now think of all of the pedophiles, rapists, and screaming, surly, downright nasty employees you hear about there. Yeah, there are none. Zero. Zip. Nada.

    TSA’s “one-offs” aren’t one-offs at all. They are evil to the core.

    Shut.It.Down.

  • Ed Boston

    Well, the Disney organization is not perfect, but at least they do try. Unlike the TSA. When there is an issue at Disney, that truly is a “one-off”.

  • http://www.facebook.com/jeff.kolker Jeff Kolker

    Maybe everyone is happier because they live in Hawaii? I joke… somewhat. I think a lot of it depends on location. I fly out of Tulsa, and have yet to have a problem, nor have I heard of anyone who has had a problem at our airport. One time I had an office promotional pocket knife in my coat pocket, a giveaway that had been in that pocket probably for a year. The agent found it, took it out, asked if I wanted to keep it, pointed out where to mail it to myself if I did. Since they were giveaways and had more at my office, I told him no, but thanked him anyway.

    I have seen instances of outright rudeness at other airports. Houston comes to mind. Location specific? Maybe….

  • Tom Brollini

    “They who can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety deserve neither liberty or safety!” (Ben Franklin)

    As I’ve said many times before old Ben had it right. NEVER give in to tyranny & the TSA is a tyrannical, unconstitutional, infringement on our rights.

    I fight them every time I fly when they do more than just have me a walk thru the metal detector. I’m not nice about it either & have faced down & dressed down numerous TSA (read GESTAPO) so called agents. They will back down.

    I put 26+ years in the military, protecting this country & it’s constitution, & I’ll be damned if I’ll let this go unchallenged.

    Stand up to this out of control government!
    SEMPER FI

  • Guest

    How many Walt Disney World employees have been arrested for rape? That’s Walt Disney World employees, not “Disney organization” employees.

    I’ll answer that for you: none. Try reading the entire post for context next time, not just the words you recognize.

  • LeeAnneClark

    Trust me, it’s not location-specific. It’s agency-specific. The evil permeates the entire TSA, flowing from the top down and the bottom up. It comes from leaders who are interested only in growing their behemoth fiefdom, with a mission that is demonstrably useless, and zero interest in the actual welfare of the citizens they are supposed to be protecting. It comes from the low-wage workers who are recruited from pizza boxes, hired with no background check, provided cursory training, and then let loose on the public with more power than they’ve ever experienced in their loser lives before, and the ability to wield it as brutally as they want, with total impunity.

    The surprise should not be that we encounter the occasional “bad apple”. The surprise is that we find the occasional GOOD TSA screener!

  • LeeAnneClark

    I applaud you for your on-the-ground activism in fighting back. The problem is the many citizens who CAN’T fight back – the handicapped, the elderly, the children, the non-English speakers who can’t understand the barking, the people who do not have the option of fighting back because they can’t afford to be denied their flight by retaliating bullies. These are often the people who get targeted. There are numerous reports of people watching the TSA checkpoints and noticing that the majority of people getting selected for random gropings are attractive young women, senior citizens, and those with visible handicaps. They prey on the weak because they are the ones who are least able to stand up to them.

    I hope you continue to fight back. And I hope that someday soon, those who can’t will no longer have to.

  • Ed Boston

    Excuse me. I think you need to go back and read the entire post again. The question was, and I quote, “And now think of all of the pedophiles, rapists, and screaming, surly, downright nasty employees you hear about there.” Notice the comment mentions more than “rape”. My comment addressed more of the “screaming, surly, downright nasty employees” you hear about there.

    And how about coming out from behind the anonymous posting. It’s interesting to note that the email notification I got about Guest’s reply is attributes it to the original poster. Seems there was a glitch somewhere in the system. So was that response really from you TSAisTerrorism?

  • Retired_vet

    TSA is neither good nor evil. There are people who are at war with us and some wish to, some have and a few have already used our transportation system as weapons. Disney is not at war but I bet they have a security system that’s very efficient but unseen. It’s also probably very expensive and their security employees are probably very well paid. How much do you think a government TSA employee is paid and would you do the job. And yes, it’s a job that needs to be done when one is at war. Try El Al if you want to see security. Rude; sometimes. Time consuming; yes. Inconvenient; sometimes. efficient; always. We are at war, help them do their job. I’m a Vietnam war vet and I didn’t like that either but it’s the cost of war. Maybe someday we, as a human family, will mature and stop killing each other over the earth that we’ll be buried in. We might begin by trying to understand others a but more that we do.

  • Lonnie

    The problem is less with the TSA alone, than it is with the concept of “protecting ourselves against terrorism”. The TSA is just a symptom.

    We have allowed ourselves to become so afraid of terrorists that we have seemingly given up our most sacred freedom: the freedom to speak out publicly. In the past, we were free to chat informally in public, make jokes, question authority, without the fear of punishment. Now, because of the TSA and other governmental organizations which are supposedly “protecting” us, we fear to do so.

    From repercussions such as being subject to an enhanced pat-down to being permanently banned from flying by being placed on the “no-fly” list, we’d rather remain meekly in line than object to the actions of the TSA.

    We are subject to constant surveillance by video cameras, by eavesdropping on our phone conversations – with or without a warrant – and by e-mail/Twitter/FaceBook monitoring. All in the name of protecting ourselves from terrorists. And we remain silent.

    Somehow, we have lost our sense of individual strength and the ability to take care of ourselves. By accepting this intrusion on our very essence as a nation, we enable the “TSAs” to carry out their missions – albeit poorly – without moderation or control. This is really not unlike the fear good people had in World War II when they feared to speak out against wrongs. If no one speaks out, where will we be?

    It’s up to us to do whatever is necessary to regain control of our person freedom. With that will come a more moderate, and wiser, TSA, as well as government itself.

    And I’m afraid I have no real answer to this underlying problem.

  • LeeAnneClark

    Your comment is clearly, provably and absurdly off-the-mark. If anyone needs reading lessons, it’s you for completely misreading Ed Boston’s response. But it was at least entertaining to see you berate someone else for misreading, when it was clearly you who did that! Thanks for the morning entertainment. :) Now, go back and read the comment in its entirety. Don’t worry, we’re a pretty forgiving group around here.

    The funniest part is that it appears “Guest” is berating Ed Boston for agreeing with him!

  • LeeAnneClark

    The first fallacy in your argument is that the TSA does anything to provide actual “security” against terrorists! They don’t. All they do is make it a little tougher for a terrorist get weapons on planes…but not by much. *Real* security experts have proven time and time again that a determined terrorist could easily bypass all of the TSA’s screwy measures and get a variety of weapons on a plane. In fact, non-terrorists manage to get guns, knives, and all manner of scary stuff onto planes on a regular basis. We only hear about a tiny fraction of the TSA’s misses.

    The second fallacy of your argument is that, even if a terrorist managed to get a weapon on a plane, there’s almost zero chance he could cause any harm. Why? Two reasons: reinforced cockpit doors, and enlightened passengers. The reason 9/11 happened is because a) the hijackers were able to access the cockpit and take over the plane, and b) American passengers had been conditioned to let hijackers do what they want, believing they’ll be able to get out of it alive. Neither condition exists today. These days not even a machete, much less a box-cutter (or a butter knife!) would be able to bring down a plane. Unless you had more terrorists on the flight than passengers, he would be neutralized in minutes. Even explosives would not do the job – it’s just not that easy to fire off a bomb on a plane. In the years since 9/11 there have been only TWO incidents of terrorists attempting to attack a US airliner – and both were handily stopped by passengers.

    The third fallacy is that your argument assumes terrorists are actually TRYING to get onboard domestic planes in the US and take them down! This is provably false. How do we know this? Try a bit of basic logic here: if there are terrorist cells across America determined to kill Americans, why are they not going after far easier targets than planes? Why are they not blowing up trains (as in Madrid), nightclubs (as in Bali), or buses (as in Israel)? Why does anyone think they are so single-mindedly obsessed with planes? And even if they were so obsessed with planes, why wouldn’t they just walk up to a crowded TSA checkpoint and blow it up, instead of trying to actually get ON a plane? They could have far more impact, taking out hundreds of people, including dozens of standing-around TSA agents, in one fell swoop, and they wouldn’t even have to let an infidel touch their junk. So why isn’t that happening? Because REAL security experts in our intelligence agencies (not low-wage mall cops) are fighting terrorism behind the scenes, infiltrating cells, gathering intelligence, and making sure no terrorists get to the point of even being able to execute a plan like that.

    Your argument is the fallacy trifecta!

  • LeeAnneClark

    I agree wholeheartedly with 99% of your post. The only line I don’t agree with is this one: “With that will come a more moderate, and wiser, TSA, as well as government itself.”

    The TSA is not salvageable. It is rotten through and through. As I said in a comment above, the evil permeates the entire agency, from the top down and the bottom up. The only way to actually “reform” the TSA is to chuck it out entirely — every leader, every supervisor, every screener — and start from scratch.

    As for what should be done at airports, many *real* security experts have stated that we should go back to the way it was before the TSA was created. In spite of what the 9/11-spouting scare mongers say, it wasn’t airport security failures that allowed 9/11 to happen. Box cutters were not considered a threat back then…and now, with reinforced cockpit doors and enlightened passengers, they are not threats today. Put airport security back in the hands of the airlines. They have a compelling interest in making sure their planes don’t fall out of the sky. Use metal detectors to ensure guns don’t make it on planes. Work closely with *real* US intelligence agencies to identify actual risks. Continue to educate Americans about what to do in the infinitesimally tiny chance they might encounter a whacko on a plane.

    And for pete’s sake stop strip-searching Grannies, frisking babies in
    diapers, and sexually assaulting teenage girls.

  • cjr001

    “So when I hear from travelers like Rose Yoakum who tell me about their
    horrific experiences with TSA screenings, I have some difficulty
    believing we’re talking about the same agency.”

    I’m not sure why it’s so difficult. As but one example: this country has
    cities like Denver, and then it has cities like Detroit.

  • Ed Boston

    Oh. And as a follow-up on how many Walt Disney World employees have been arrested for rape….

    http://www.wftv.com/news/news/disney-worker-says-rape-allegations-arent-serious/nJdrX/

    There is one. He was arrested and was a Walt Disney World employee.

    Another story of a Disney Employee arrested in a child sex sting…

    http://www.dreamindemon.com/2012/06/11/child-sex-sting-snags-38-men-including-school-teacher-disney-employee/

    Opps. Here’s another arrest for rape…

    http://www.clickorlando.com/news/2-Disney-Workers-Arrested-In-Sex-Crimes/-/1637132/1942140/-/6lh8x/-/index.html

    So even at places like Walt Disney World, you still have problems with these types.

  • LeeAnneClark

    The difference, as you so rightly pointed out in an earlier comment, is that the Disney organization has a compelling interest to ensure that rapists and pedophiles don’t get onto their payrolls at all…and if they do, they quickly remove them. The TSA, on the other hand, hires known pedophiles and then, when they are revealed, KEEPS THEM ON THE PAYROLL. The TSA openly acknowledges that it does not perform adequate background checks, and sets its low-paid, uneducated, ill-trained employees loose on the bodies of innocent Americans regardless of any history of sexual crimes. Even when video surfaces of abuses being perpetrated on women, children, elderly, and the handicapped, TSA’s response is their standard claim that “appropriate screening procedures were followed”.

  • Nigel Appleby

    I think the judges. the courts in general and specially politicians with the authority to rein in TSA and CATSA in Canada,are terrified of doing so.
    Because if something happened which TSA could claim wouldn’t have happened if they hadn’t been reined in, the judge or polictician would be held responsible.
    No judge or politician wants to be in a position of being held reponsible.

  • http://www.facebook.com/jeff.kolker Jeff Kolker

    Obviously, you have had bad experiences. Sorry about that. However, I, nor my wife, have had any such experience. Sure, the security lines are a pain, not sure how effective it truly is, and all that. But as a relatively frequent fliers, I have found the staff at Tulsa Intl to fairly cordial.

    Maybe us Okies are more friendly than some ;) Or less evil. Anyway, I base my statements on my own experiences.

  • Extramail

    I absolutely could not agree more. And, so well said. The terrorists have won because we are as terrified of simply getting on an airplane as we are of the possibility that there might be an incident while on board. I think we have more proof that our fellow passengers will stand up for themselves if confronted than we do that the TSA has stopped a planned attack. And, that started with the passengers on the plane that went down in Shanksville.

  • LeeAnneClark

    Like I said above: queue the “it hasn’t happened to me, so it must not be happening” posts in 3…2…1…

    And here you are.

    Of course I’m happy that you have not had a bad experience yet. There are two explanations for that: it’s either sheer luck, or you and your wife have a high tolerance for intrusive touching by strangers.

    There are plenty of travelers who’ve been lucky enough to have never been subjected to a TSA grope-down. There are also passengers who’ve had to get one, but were lucky enough to have a TSA screener who managed to do it without touching their genitals or being abusive. I’ve had several grope-downs that were tolerable, in that the screener didn’t actually touch my sex organs (not that I think ANY part of the grope-down is acceptable or has any merit, but at least I didn’t feel sexually violated).

    But even MORE passengers have received TSA-style grope-downs which DID include genital touching…but they were fine with it! Heck, even Ben Affleck recently stated that he thinks it’s no big deal that the TSA screeners “grab your d*ck a little bit”. (See him say it here: http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=WmJMOjE7_3k )

    We call people like this AFS’ers, or “Anything For Safety” types. They are bizarrely okay with allowing ill-trained, low-wage government workers to touch their most intimate body parts, out of the mistaken belief that it somehow makes them safer.

    There are those of us who think that it is NEVER, ever, okay for strangers to forcibly touch our genitals without our consent under coercive circumstances. Especially rape victims, who tend more than most to feel a strong need to maintain control over who touches their genitals, and can have damaging reactions to being forced to submit themselves to this abuse just to be able to travel.

    But we realize that we are fighting an uphill battle against the AFS’ers, who will continue to say various iterations of “it hasn’t happened to me, so stop complaining” and “they’re just doing their job” and “I’ll let them do whatever they want to do to me as long as they keep my plane from being hijacked.”

    Here’s some reality checks:

    1. It IS happening. Daily. This is indisputable – just search YouTube for “TSA Abuse” and you can see actual video of it happening. Not to mention the hundreds of media reports, and the thousands upon thousands of complaints to the ACLU (visible on their website).

    2. The “I’m just doing my job” excuse was torpedoed at Nuremberg. That is no longer an acceptable justification for abusing people.

    3. They are NOT keeping your plane from being hijacked. Reinforced cockpit doors and enlightened passengers are keeping your plane from being hijacked. All the TSA is doing is wasting 8 BILLION dollars a year on a theater show put on for the AFS’ers.

  • http://www.facebook.com/sommer.gentry Sommer Gentry

    I must admit that I also had a positive TSA experience recently, traveling with a torn knee ligament that made it impossible for me to stand or walk without crutches. The TSA opened a walk-through metal detector for me, even though they were sending every other traveler through the body scanner, and gave me plastic canes to use as crutches to get through the metal detector until I could reach my crutches again on the other side. I avoided being flagged for a patdown, which I would never and will never allow because I don’t engage in sexual activities with strangers. I had a backup plan to get home if the TSA threatened to molest me.

    Note to body scanner avoiders – in addition to the exemption for children that Chris has described above, there should be an option offered to use the metal detector if you can not assume the position required for the body scanner due to a medical issue, like a torn rotator cuff that prevents you from raising your arms over your head. As with all TSA policies, this varies by checkpoint and the mood / training / sadism / hostility of the person in the blue shirt.

    Still, even though some people sometimes have good experiences, the fact remains that the TSA claims the explicit right to force you to allow low-wage strangers to sexually fondle you and your minor children. This is so wrong, such an enormous red flag of monstrous abuse, that any other policy change or charm offensive on the part of TSA is irrelevant. Who cares whether they smile at you? They put their hands on a fourteen year old girl’s labia! Who cares whether they helped you lift your bag? They grabbed a Congressman’s testicles! These things aren’t even measurable on the same scale of humanity. Forcing unwelcome sexual touching on innocent travelers cancels out anything positive the TSA could ever do or will ever do. Until the patdowns stop, the TSA is evil and anyone who works for them is a facilitator and apologist for sexual assault.

  • http://www.facebook.com/jeff.kolker Jeff Kolker

    You said they are all evil. I am just trying to say there are some decent folks working there. I know bad things happen. It is obvious bad things happen. However, bad things happening doesn’t mean they everyone is bad. Your blanket statements show your bias. I personally recognize the good as well as the bad. The bad should be punished and removed. The good ones..do their job.

    NEVER did I say it didn’t happen. You need to read better. Perhaps your apparent blinding hated for the TSA has closed your eyes a bit. I am not a TSA fan either. But I don’t use such blanket statements to cover any group of people.

  • LeeAnneClark

    Oh believe me, I read your post. More than once. I continue to find it mind-boggling that anyone can defend them, so I always read posts such as yours more than once just to confirm for myself that it really is true…there really are people who think any of this nonsense is okay.

    Yes, I said they are all evil. And I meant it. The part you seem to ignore is that the so-called “decent folks” working for TSA are STILL evil, by virtue of the fact that they are working for an organization that forces the sexual molestation of millions of innocent Americans for no purpose whatsoever.

    Someone else just posted this exact concept far more articulately than I can say it. So rather than try, I’ll just copy/paste Sommer Gentry’s words here:

    “The fact remains that the TSA claims the explicit right to force you to allow low-wage strangers to sexually fondle you and your minor children.This is so wrong, such an enormous red flag of monstrous abuse, that any other policy change or charm offensive on the part of TSA is irrelevant. Who cares whether they smile at you? They put their hands on a fourteen year old girl’s labia! Who cares whether they helped you lift your bag? They grabbed a Congressman’s testicles! These things aren’t even measurable on the same scale of humanity. Forcing unwelcome sexual touching on innocent travelers cancels out anything positive the TSA could ever do or will ever do. Until the patdowns stop, the TSA is evil and anyone who works for them is a facilitator and apologist for sexual assault.”

    Is it starting to make sense why we say they are “all evil”?

    As for bias – I find it comical that anyone can call what I think and feel about the TSA “bias”. Is it “biased” to think that a rapist is evil? Is it “biased” to consider child pornographers to be bad people? Is it “biased” to believe that the guards at Treblinka were monsters, even if they didn’t actually murder any Jews themselves?

    (Nods to Godwin!) ;-)

    My blanket statements that the entire TSA is evil stand. Anyone who is a “good person” would not work for an organization that perpetrates wholesale sexual assault on innocent Americans on a daily basis.

  • LeeAnneClark

    One of the most articulate explanations for why the entire TSA is evil to the core that I have ever seen. THANK YOU!

  • streamerstoo

    I really do not understand why all the groping, sexual touching is NOT illegal. It would be if it happened anywhere else. It seems they have a license to abuse travelers. To me, that should be a crime! Yet it still continues even with all the media attention. Why?

  • Frank Ney

    Because any local charge of sexual assault/battery or rape will be removed to federal court, where it will be dismissed as “done in accordance to policy as a part of the freedom fluffer’s scope of employment.”

  • Frank Ney

    +1,000

  • Leslie Bonner

    As someone who travels only a few times a year I fortunately haven’t run into TSA agents with bad behavior. Just a couple of weeks ago I was singled out for a pat down and I thought the agent (female as am I) was very gentle. Of course I tend to be polite and follow instructions.

  • Daisiemae

    The problem is that their job is inherently evil. Forcing innocent people to pose for nude photos, exposing innocent people to dangerous radiation, and forcing innocent people to be touched in their most intimate body parts is evil in and of itself.

    Simply by being an employee of an organization with those stated missions makes that employee complicit and guilty of those actions. It doesn’t matter how nice that employee is, that employee is still guilty by association of committing those obscene and unAmerican acts propagated by their employer.

    TSA has stated over and over again that employees committing these acts are “following proper procedure.” Abusing innocent passengers is in the screener’s job description. By accepting that job, the screener is part and parcel of the abuse…whether the screener likes it or not…whether the screener performs the job correctly or not. By accepting the job, the screener is enabling TSA to continue to abuse innocent passengers whether or not the individual screener actually abuses anyone himself/herself.

    So yes, TSA is evil to the core, and yes, they are all evil.

  • Daisiemae

    That is the very reason we no longer fly. We cannot fight back. We are fragile and have disabilities and cannot risk being abused and injured by these monsters.

  • Daisiemae

    Amen, sister!

  • Daisiemae

    Untold numbers of polite and reasonable people have been abused by TSA. Numerous internet videos attest to this fact. Being polite and following instructions has never been an effective defense against predators.

    That’s on a par with saying “I have never been raped on a subway platform. Of course, I tend to be polite and follow instructions.” Or “I’ve never been robbed on the street. Of course, I tend to be polite and follow instructions.” Or “I’ve never been baked in an oven in Auschwitz. Of course, I tend to be polite and follow instructions.”

    Repeat: Being polite and following instructions has never been an effective defense against predators.

  • LeeAnneClark

    So because it hasn’t happened to you, are you disputing that it’s happened to thousands of other passengers? Because if so, I have a few dozen YouTube videos, and a few hundred media reports, that I’d like to show you.

    As for your “polite and follow instructions” comment, that smacks suspiciously of “blame-the-victim”. The insinuation is that those of us who HAVE been abused WEREN’T polite. That we somehow caused, or even deserved, our abuse because we didn’t follow instructions.

    Let me assure you in the strongest terms possible that that is simply not true. During both of my sexual assaults at the hands of the TSA I was calm, civil and not confrontational. One of the times occurred when I was just 3 weeks out of major back surgery, walking with a cane and wearing a rigid back brace, and I was too physically weak to be in any way threatening or belligerent. When my elderly disabled mother was abused, she was walking with a cane, recovering from breast cancer surgery, and entirely unable to fight back. The two children I saw harassed were profoundly physically and mentally handicapped, and didn’t even understand what was happening to them. Their parents tried to do everything they were told, but were repeatedly barked at and refused the opportunity to help their crippled children as they were forced to leave their wheelchairs and hobble, alone and frightened, through the porn-scanner.

    THESE are the people the TSA is abusing – elderly, handicapped, children. The people who are least likely to be a threat.

    Care to suggest again that we brought this on ourselves by not being polite or following instructions?

  • pauletteb

    Oh, please! Anyone in this day and age who “forgets” liquids in her carry-on deserves to be “demeaned”!

  • pauletteb

    At least get the quote right!

  • pauletteb

    You are so off the wall it’s hysterical! I’d hate to be behind you in a checkout line if something didn’t scan correctly.

  • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=100002152481201 TestJeff Pierce

    Because the local law enforcement are instructed not to arrest TSA employees who violate the state laws against unwanted touching of genitals, breasts, and buttocks. Although it is illegal, they are told the Federal law authorizing the TSA to conduct passenger screening gives the TSA the lega federal authority to conduct whatever they want to do.

    Quite frankly, inserting objects in our orifices – women and men and children – would be legal. The TSA argued the right, in court in EPIC vs DHS, to perform physical strip searches on passengers if they wanted to.

    The Supreme Court overturned a Sheriff who had visitors to prisoners strip searched…so, maybe, there is hope that airports will have the same protection of our rights that we have at jails.

  • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=100002152481201 TestJeff Pierce

    In other words, they would all throw the Constitution and the Bill of Rights in the toilet rather than stand up for it. I think that is the clarification needed here.

    In short, they are not in favor of American values and liberties.

    I would say Freedom To Travel USA has worked with some legislators who ARE willing to stand up for our country. Just not enough….yet.

  • LeeAnneClark

    Way to compare a sexual assault with grocery shopping! Keepin’ it classy, Paulette.

    It’s always entertaining to see someone who clearly has nothing of actual value to say, so they just regress into ad hominem attacks. More classy stuff. This is typical behavior from someone incapable of actually participating in civil debate – attack the person when you can’t intelligently attack the subject. Do you actually have anything of value to say about this? Do you have any tidbits of wisdom, experience, or opinion? Or do you only have snarky personal attacks to offer? If that’s all ya got, then please step aside and let the grown-ups talk.

    While I’m not generally the type of person who wishes ill on others, in this case I think a good ol’ labia-jab by Bertha the TSA Goon would do you a world of good. You might actually grow a heart, and learn not to make personal attacks on sexual assault victims.

  • LeeAnneClark

    REALLY? Wow! Folks, we have ourselves a real live PERFECT PERSON here! Paulette, I bow down to you, because you are the first PERFECT PERSON I’ve ever met in my life, who never ever forgets anything. What must it be like to be so perfect, to have such a perfect brain, that you never ever forget something? No matter how harried travel can be, no matter how many tasks you might have to remember to do before you head to the airport, you will NEVER accidentally leave something in a bag that you didn’t mean to bring.

    I guess my elderly Mom deserved to be demeaned when we went shopping during a vacation to New Zealand and she bought a jar of local honey to bring home as a gift for my sister, and then forgot and left it in her carry-on during the packing rush to fly home. Fortunately, that TSA screener must not have met YOU, the PERFECT PERSON, because she was actually polite to my Mom when she confiscated it. I guess what she should have done is scream, humiliate and demean her for the crime of being forgetful. Can you imagine, forgetting something like that? At her age? The nerve!

    Keepin it classy, Paulette! That appears to be your modus operandi.

  • DavidYoung2

    Yes there is good and bad in every large organization. Funny Tom the original commenter should mention Semper Fi. Isn’t that a US Marine going on trial today for a drunken rampage in which he (allegedly) slaughtered 14 innocent Afghan civilians? Oh, sorry, it was 16. My mistake.

    Bringing up the TSA child molester is simply trying to impugn an entire group based on the actions of one person. So are every man and women in our armed forces psychotic murderers? That seems to be the analogy being drawn here.

    So yes, even in the most ‘professional’ organization, there are good and bad, and some exceptional and some monsters. If anybody expects otherwise, they are sadly delusional.

  • DavidYoung2

    Gee, you ‘fight them every time’ and you’re “not nice about it.” You brag about ‘facing down’ and ‘dressing down’ other Americans who are just doing their jobs. You sound like a wonderful person.

    After having to deal with a people like you every shift, I’m just SHOCKED that the TSA workers aren’t overly friendly to every traveller.

  • Flipper

    When it comes to the safety risk of the Millimeter Wave scanners… puh-lease. Cars with the “adaptive cruise control” feature use the same frequency range to measure the speed of the car in front so that they can match the speed. If you’re driving down the freeway, and a Prius, or some luxury car is pacing behind you like it was driven by a computer…. it probably is. And it uses a Millimeter Wave radar to do that.

    Also, police radar in the Ka band now runs at about 34 GHz, which is well within the Millimeter Wave range. Every time your radar detecter beeps, you might be getting a Millimeter Wave exposure. Yes, police radar does not form an image like an airport scanner does, but the health risks of Millimeter Wave exposure are the same.

    This does not change any health risk assessment for the X-ray (blue box) scanners, which use ionizing radiation.

  • LeeAnneClark

    Something else just occurred to me in regards to your comment. Paulette, I don’t know where you are doing your grocery shopping, but if they are touching your genitals in the check-out line, you may want to consider shopping somewhere else!

    Unless that’s the reason you shop there…

  • LeeAnneClark

    Flipper, just for the record, many people choose to opt out of the MMW scanner not because of any health risk, but because they consider it an inappropriate (and in the case of our children, ILLEGAL) intrusion to have government workers looking at our naked bodies.

    Also just for the record, my particular issue is not with the scanners, as my closest airport doesn’t have scanners, only the metal detectors. Which means I’m subjected to a sexual assault EVERY TIME I FLY due to the metal parts in my spine. Frankly I’m sick and tired of having strangers stick their hands between my legs and rub my boobs just so I can fly to see my family.

  • http://www.facebook.com/sommer.gentry Sommer Gentry

    Low-wage employees are grabbing your boobs and shoving their hands down your pants in the checkout line? Where on earth do you shop?

  • http://www.facebook.com/sommer.gentry Sommer Gentry

    My issue with all the scanners is that they create nude images of my body. I’m not the TSA’s porn star, and I’d appreciate it if they’d stop trying to undress me with their technology. My body is my own. I don’t provide open access to my sex organs so strangers can look and feel.

    Although the MMW do have the “privacy filter” installed, the machines still create nude images – the TSA just promises not to look. Since they’ve been caught in their lies before, (for example, stating that the images could not be saved or transmitted when their own procurement documents required internal memory for storing images and USB and networking connections for transferring images), I don’t trust them.

  • LeeAnneClark

    Sommer, that’s exactly what I was wondering. Paulette B seems to be living in some sort of parallel universe where grocery clerks touch your sex organs, people who don’t want to have their sex organs touched by clerks are “off the wall”, and forgetfully leaving some benign liquid in your bag is a crime worthy of derision.

    I’m sure glad I don’t live in that world!