Did Princess ship ignore a vessel asking for help?

Did Princess ship ignore a vessel asking for help?

Oh, never mind. / Photo by cruadin - Flickr
It sounds like something straight out of a nightmare: You’re on a small fishing vessel, adrift in the Pacific. You see a ship in the distance, and you signal for help. But it keeps going.

Nearly a month later, when you’re finally rescued, two of your crewmates are dead. Had that ship responded to your plea for help, they’d still be alive today.

It wasn’t a dream for Adrian “Santi” Vasquez, who was adrift on an Ecuadoran fishing vessel near the Galapagos Islands more than 28 days. Three alert birdwatchers on the Star Princess saw the stricken fishing vessel and alerted the ship’s crew.

Here’s an interview with the surviving crew member in which he identifies the ship.

There’s a more detailed story on NPR, which aired this morning.

If it is true that the Princess crew failed to help, it would violate maritime law, according to cruise ship law expert Jim Walker. Regulation 33 of the International Convention for the Safety of Life At Sea (SOLAS) Chapter V states:

The master of a ship at sea which is in a position to be able to provide assistance on receiving a signal from any source that persons are in distress at sea, is bound to proceed with all speed to their assistance …

Walker says many questions remain unanswered in the wake of this tragedy.

“The families of the young dead fishermen deserve an explanation why their children died at sea in this manner,” he adds.

Princess says it’s looking into the incident.

We’re aware of the allegations that Star Princess supposedly passed by a boat in distress that was carrying three Panamanian fishermen on March 10, 2012. At this time we cannot verify the facts as reported, and we are currently conducting an internal investigation on the matter.

We were very saddened to learn that two lives were lost aboard the boat, and our thoughts and prayers are with the families involved.

Princess Cruises is dedicated to the highest standards of seamanship wherever our ships sail, and it is our duty to assist any vessel in distress. We have come to the aid of many people at sea, and we will continue to do so.

I hope there’s a full investigation, both by Princess and by Bermuda, the ship’s flag state. But beyond that, I want to share with you how deeply affected I am by this story.

When I heard about this incident, I imagined what it must have felt like to be adrift in the open Pacific and to see a cruise ship in the distance. And then, to have my hopes dashed as it passed by. It’s just horrible.

If Princess turned a cold shoulder to these fishermen in defiance of maritime law, what message does that send to those of us asking a cruise line to honor its customer service commitments?

Update (8/30): Princess just published the following press release.

New Evidence Proves Princess Cruises Did Not Fail to Rescue
Adrift Fishermen as Alleged

Cruise Line Demands Lawsuits be Immediately Dismissed

Santa Clarita, Calif. (August 30, 2012) – Princess Cruises has released recently discovered video footage of a rescue at sea of a small boat adrift for nearly a month in the Pacific Ocean that conclusively confirms the adrift boat, the Fifty Cent, was not the small boat spotted and photographed by three Princess passengers several weeks earlier.

The story, which broke last April, received extensive press coverage with Princess and the ship’s captain widely criticized for not coming to the rescue of the men onboard, two of whom subsequently died.

Princess has been sued six times by the survivor and relatives of fishermen on the adrift boat. The lawsuits claim the cruise ship Star Princess passed within several miles of the Fifty Cent, but failed to rescue them despite three cruise ship passengers spotting them and reporting they saw a boat that might be in distress. The ship’s bridge staff did not see signs of distress and therefore did not stop or notify the ship’s captain.

The Princess passengers, a group of bird watchers with sophisticated telescopic camera equipment, photographed the small boat they had spotted. Their photos depict a small white boat similar to Panga boats used by local fishermen in Central America. In contrast, the video footage of the Fifty Cent’s rescue shows a markedly different boat.

Princess had the newly discovered video and the original bird watchers’ photos analyzed by Michael Snyder, a retired photo analyst and photogrammetry expert from NASA’s Johnson Space Center. Mr. Snyder concluded that “the small boat photographed by the passengers onboard Star Princess is clearly not the small boat called Fifty Cent that Adrian Vasquez was found adrift on.

Princess began searching for photographs or video of the Fifty Cent after hearing recorded statements by plaintiff Adrian Vasquez that were inconsistent with his allegation that Star Princess had passed him by, and which were also inconsistent with the bird watchers’ reported sighting. The captain of the fishing boat that rescued Vasquez has provided a sworn statement confirming that Vasquez gave a detailed account of his ordeal at the time he was rescued, but never mentioned any cruise ship passing him by.

Further supporting the fact that Star Princess did not cross paths with the Fifty Cent is a drift analysis which charted the movement of the two vessels taking into account ocean current, wind and wave data. Conducted by Weather Routing, Inc., a private meteorological consulting firm, the analysis concluded “that it is not likely the boat sighted by the guest passengers was the same boat rescued on March 23rd and identified as the Fifty Cent.

“While this remains a tragic story, we are gratified to have scientific confirmation that Star Princess was never in the vicinity of the adrift boat and that the boat photographed by our passengers was not the adrift Fifty Cent,” said Alan Buckelew, president and CEO of Princess Cruises. “Nevertheless, we have used this as a valuable learning opportunity and have strengthened our bridge reporting procedures to ensure that all messages of concern from passengers or crew are carefully evaluated by our senior bridge officers.”

According to Princess, the ship’s captain, Edward Perrin, had been devastated by allegations his ship might have ignored a vessel in distress. Ironically, Captain Perrin was praised last month by Canadian authorities after his ship diverted to act as a wind block assisting Canadian authorities in a dramatic helicopter rescue of two sailors from a boat that was floundering in stormy conditions off the coast of British Columbia. Princess ships have come to the aid of persons or ships in distress more than 30 times in the past decade and it is fairly common for Princess ships to divert to render aid when they receive distress calls.

Princess Cruises has demanded the lawsuits be immediately dismissed and has offered to waive its right to seek recovery of legal costs,citing sympathy for the victims of the Fifty Cent’s ordeal.

Video footage of Adrian Vasquez aboard the fishing boat that rescued him, and his boat Fifty Cent can be found here: http://youtu.be/vcdw-zKcAJU

A graphic comparing the Fifty Cent and the boat photographed by Princess passengers can be found here: http://www.princess.com/news/images/2012/08/StarPrincess_FiftyCent8_30_12_LARGE.jpg

# # #

Christopher Elliott

Christopher Elliott is an author, journalist and consumer advocate. You can read more about him on his personal website or contact him at chris@elliott.org. Got a question or comment? You can post it on the new forum.

More Posts - Website - Twitter - Facebook - LinkedIn - Google Plus

  • http://www.facebook.com/abelenky Aaron Belenky

    The fact that one of the observers sent a message to the USCG is pretty much proof of her story, if records of that message still exist.

    The penalty for failing to render aid?  The captain should be set adrift at the same coordinates of the vessel he failed to aid, and his ship, the Star Princess, should be forfeit to the survivor who was denied aid.

  • http://www.eyeonannapolis.net/ John Frenaye

    With Princess being owned by Carnival it does bring the training of their Captains into consideration when you look at the Concordia.

  • TrixiDelite

    I know this captain. A couple of years ago this captain saved the lives of two people who fell overboard.  All I can think is that there was some horrible miscommunication in this tragic case. Here is a link (PDF) of his past heroics http://a0130905.uscgaux.info/News%20Documents/AFRAS_Presents_Award.pdf

  • Raven_Altosk

    Purely disgusting behavior on the part of the captain and Princess.
    I’m surprised this hasn’t made the MSM. Or is Princess/Carnival trying to sweep it under the rug?

    You know, because they’ve had quite a few black eyes this year…

  • TrixiDelite

    It’s all over the MSM, and seriously, take a step back and wait for the investigation to be completed. This captain is simply not somebody who would leave a boat in distress. I really hate the immediacy of the internet sometimes.

  • AKRaven

    I can’t really vote on this not knowing all the details but I agree it’s heart wrenching to imagine what the crew of the fishing vessel experienced. If Princess did – in fact – ignore their plea for help then there is no punishment severe enough.   

  • deemery

    Normally I enjoy these articles and the poll.  But this poll is frankly stupid, as it asks for an opinion for which none of us have any facts over what was presented in the story.  Bad choice on this poll, Chris.  
    How about “If Princess did ignore the vessel, should they be boycotted?” or something similar?

  • cybersal

    Did the 2 people fall off his ship? If so, then of course he will save them – for several reasons.
    This is a callus disregard of human life. The voyage had to be ruined for the passengers and will likely upset them for a long time.

  • Raven_Altosk

    What are you, his girlfriend?

    Link to MSM coverage…I’ve been all over the ‘net looking for it and can’t find anything substantial.

  • dsliesse

    My thoughts exactly.  One article doth not a legal case make.

  • TrixiDelite

    Perhaps you can google it yourself next time. http://news.google.com/news/story?hl=en&ds=n&pq=edward+perrin&cp=3&gs_id=c&xhr=t&q=star+princess&rls=com.microsoft:en-us:IE-Address&bav=on.2,or.r_gc.r_pw.r_qf.,cf.osb&wrapid=tljp133485819012224&um=1&ie=UTF-8&ncl=dPUi03D19u8EPKM7dfpTgJUARgH1M&ei=3lGQT8KMDqThiAKL2Oi7Aw&sa=X&oi=news_result&ct=more-results&resnum=2&sqi=2&ved=0CDcQqgIwAQ

  • SpankyMcSpanky

    if they had stopped people would have complained.  The guy can’t win.

  • Michelle C

     Who cares if people complain.  It is best to just do the right thing even if it may be the unpopular vote. . . .   It is likely if the crew had saved these three guys they would have been labeled heros instead of villains. 

  • Joe_D_Messina

    Unfortunately, it’s way beyond miscommunication. The concerned passengers were told the captain had spoken to the fishermen on the radio…except they didn’t have a radio. That’s not miscommunication, it’s flat-out lying.

    I’m also having a really hard time understanding how experienced sailors who’d presumably take a “better safe than sorry” approach could mistake signals of distress for a friendly wave of thanks for avoiding fishing nets, which is what they claim happened. Meanwhile, these passengers were so certain it was a desperate situation they logged the coordinates and contacted the Coast Guard on their own even after the ship’s crew had told them everything was okay. 

  • Joe_D_Messina

    Agreed one story does not a full case make, but it’s pretty damning, nonetheless.  You’ve got the survivor saying he saw the cruise ship but it didn’t stop AND you’ve got three passengers on the ship who reported seeing the fishermen, reported it to the crew, and even were standing there when the bridge was informed.  And they were so certain it was a desperate situation they took it upon themselves to log the coordinates and contact authorities even after they were told everything was fine.

  • Michelle C

    This situation actually makes me sick to my stomach (not easy to do), which seems to happen easy the past few days with this story, the murdered mother of the new baby in Texas, and the mother and daughter rape/murder in Vegas. There is no question the boat of was spotted by passengers on the Princess ship.  I cannot think of a scenario where Princess was not at fault.   The ONLY way to guarantee the boat was not in trouble was to communicate with the three passengers, and without a working radio there is no way they could have done that.   Either Princess determined there frantic waving was a friendly gesture, or they just ignored the distress waving because they didn’t want to deal with it.   The first makes the Princess crew too stupid to be allowed on water, and the second makes them horrible human beings.

  • Raven_Altosk

    Those are all small media outlets minus ABC. That’s not MSM. I expected front page of CNN.

    Ah, well. Go back to defending your murdering captain-boyfriend-whatever.

  • Raven_Altosk

    I would’ve LOVED for some of the cruisers to complain to Chris about the stop, had it been made and aid rendered. 

    I would’ve torn them a new one as they claimed “extreme emotional distress” for arriving 3 hours late to a port of call and being “exposed” to disease/filth/whatever else crap they could concoct about the poor fishermen!

  • Raven_Altosk

    That “woman” who murdered the mother in Texas is in court today. Buzz on local news websites is she better be wearing a bullet proof vest because lots of people want to enact some Wild West Justice.

    Can’t say I blame them, but I wouldn’t waste the ammo.

    Also, I maintain she is a baby seller and is concocting the “I wanted a baby” story.

  • Michelle C

    With Carnival being the largest cruise they would typically have more issues than the other cruise lines, but this is ridiculous.  Carnival needs to take a serious look at the morals, integrity, and training of their Captains.  

    I’m tempted to say that I will never take a Carnival owned cruise due to what appears to be a lack of high standards but to be honest I don’t know if the other lines are better-or just lucky.  It is kinda like the airlines… one just flies the airline that didn’t screw them over the last time.

    I would be interested in learning which cruise lines require the most training and experience for the Captains.  

  • Raven_Altosk

    I think Trixie is a trick of the captain, if ya follow…

  • TonyA_says

    Isn’t this the same ship that had a (big) fire some years ago? I wonder what would happen if no other ship went to aid it and help put out the fire?

    Also,  Latin American and Caribbean folks should think about why their countries (maybe corrupt) will allow registration of these [greedy] ships that  would not bother to save citizens of these same countries.

    Are these cruise ship companies rotten to the core?

  • jennj99738

     I understand the Captain also reported that the boat was part of a fishing fleet and that the fleet asked the Captain to reroute the cruise ship to avoid their nets.  Obviously untrue.  There’s so much wrong here. 

  • Cybrsk8r

    I agree, but what does that story have to do with this one?

  • Joe_D_Messina

    It is indeed the same ship. I remember the fire, but I hadn’t heard the aftermath until reading just now. Makes you wonder about the company, for sure.

    The fire that burned 150 cabins started when somebody left a cigarette on a balcony. The balcony dividers were made of flammable plastic. Balcony doors weren’t fire resistant, which was against regulations, and the balconies allowed the fire to spread because they built them stretching across fire barriers within the ship, effectively making the fire barriers useless.

  • Raven_Altosk

    Eh, got off on a tangent there after Michelle mentioned some of the henious news stories of the week…

  • TonyA_says

    I couldn’t use those materials in my house. Of course I am subject to Connecticut Code(s). I wonder how these ships get away with what they are doing (or not doing). Is there any LAW in (or for) these ships?

  • Joe_D_Messina

    Very interesting article at the page below about the family of a guy who died as a result of the Star Princess fire and their efforts to improve fire safety on cruise ships.


    The flammable plastic balconies were in use at the time because the cruise industry had decided among themselves it was okay.   They stopped using the stuff only after the Star Princess fire. (Amazing photos on the site above of the fire damage–those balconies were burned off the ship without a trace.)  

    They also had no fire detectors or sprinklers on the balconies then–they do now. Their “solution” at the time was stickers on the balconies warning people not to throw cigarettes off the side.

  • SallyLu

    It’s on MSNBC, but way down in the Travel section – not one of the headlines at all.

  • SallyLu

    I read the story on MSNBC this morning, and I was surprised at the number of commenters who said that they had been on cruise ships that went out of their way to rescue stranded boaters.

  • Lindabator

    Funny you said that, as when Princess has made stops to render aid in the past (as other cruise lines have, as well), there HAVE been the small handful of whiners.  But most other passengers just shame them into silence.  I find this situation very  perplexing, as Princess has rendered aid in MANY cases.  I really need more info, but if it is true, this Captain should be ashamed of himself.  AND out of a job!

  • Raven_Altosk

    Wow. I am shocked that people would protest helping those in need of rescuing!

    But…then, maybe I shouldn’t be too shocked, given the mentality of most on vacation: “Me first. Gimme Gimme!”

  • cheazlit

    First off, I want to state that I think what happened is wrong.  But Raven, your reply is utterly inappropriate.  Calling someone the captians “girlfriend” be cause they disagree with you?  Really?  Pretty low.  Argue the facts if you must.  But making personal attacks on someone just shows that you are unable to make a good arguement for your position.  People are allowed to have different opinions than you, and your unprofessional personal attacks have a chilling effect on real discussion on this board.

  • TonyA_says

    OK, I understand your point. But if one says “I know this captain”, and leaves it at that; don’t you think people would speculate what she meant?

    Considering that 2 lives were lost when they could have been saved, and revelation that a bogus report may have been submitted by the captain of the cruise ship, it is reasonable to suspect the motives of  a “cheerleader”.

    People are very upset this happened. That is the reason why we are seeing this reaction. People are using social media to blow off some steam.

  • Sadie_Cee

    Is Princess Cruises the only agency investigating these serious allegations?  They are now saying that the captain was not informed about the vessel in distress.
    This is an extract from Princess Cruises’s official statement released today:
     “The preliminary results of our investigation have shown that there appeared to be a breakdown in communication in relaying the passenger’s concern.  Neither Captain Edward Perrin nor the officer of the watch were notified. Understandably, Captain Perrin is devastated that he is being accused of knowingly turning his back on people in distress. Had the Captain received this information, he would have had the opportunity to respond.
    We all understand that it is our responsibility and also the law of the sea to provide assistance to any vessel in distress, and it is not an uncommon occurrence for our ships to be involved in a rescue at sea. In fact, we have done so more than 30 times in the last ten years.
    We deeply regret this incident and are continuing our investigation to fully understand the circumstances.”
    One of the birdwatchers has reported that she helped a crew member make a call to the bridge.  Why was the information not relayed to the captain?  I find it hard to believe that it wasn’t and remain skeptical. 

  • Raven_Altosk

    Then how does she “know the captain” and why does she have no posts prior to this (as do you), but shows up to defend him?

    I must have an awesomely chilling effect since this is your first post and now you show up to defend her. Awesome. I’ll need to try out my new super power of drawing in newbie-back-patting-commenters and freezing their free discourse.

    BTW, this behavior you and your pal are showing is what we call this “White Knighting” on the world of the interwebb. Please, sit down and let the grown ups talk.

  • Raven_Altosk

    Yeah, I had to dig for it. Looks like the MSM is doing Carnival a favor by not reporting on another “mishap.”

  • http://twitter.com/padreandrew AndrewJV

    I was once on a Crystal Cruise Ship that had passed through the Panama Canal.  After we left a Port in Mexico on our way to New Orleans and on the final night when we were due to have the Champagne Fountain, the Captain came on the loud speaker and said the ship had to stop to aid a small vessel in distress.  The ship came to a stop.  Two tenders were lowered.  The tenders went to the small sailboat that had 1) run out of fuel; 2) had engine trouble; 3) had two sick passengers on board.  The cruise ship sent out a doctor and two nurses; mechanics; fuel; food; provisions and blankets.  After two hours, the tenders returned.  The captain kept briefing us about everything that was happening.  Almost the entire passenger list were out on the decks watching the entire proceedings.  

    In the end, the two sick people on the sailboat had been given physicals and medications for sea sickness, the Mexican coast guard had been summoned and arrived to help the stricken sailboat, and the boat had been repaired and its engines were operating before the Crystal ship was going to depart.  The Captain gave a final report.  As the tenders returned to the ship all the passengers broke into applause.  It delayed the ship two hours but the captain said it would not affect our arrival.

    They then had the chapagne fountain and when the Captain came into the grand lobby, everyone applauded him but he gave the credit to the doctors and the mechanics.

    It was a virtuous step on the part of the Crystal Ship but the captain mentioned both at the beginning of the operation that it was a “rule of the sea” and the “duty and the honor” of any seaman that you “must” stop and render assistance to any ship or vessel in distress and that if it were our ship in distress, the same would be expected from any other vessel.

    It was quite a learning experience and everyone was glad that the people were safe.   The only ironic part of it was that the people on the sailboat had rented this boat in Mexico.  They had never sailed before; they did not speak Spanish; they were from Germany and there were no manuals on board on how to start the engine, care for the engine and there were no extra fuel tanks, food provisions, or emergency radios on the ship.  I guess it shows you how some firms will rent a ship to just anyone to make a dollar.

  • y_p_w

    I saw it as the lead story on the Yahoo! front page yesterday morning.  That’s pretty mainstream to me.  I also heard it reported on NPR News with interviews of the passengers who say the kids on the boat.  I guess they’re probably not mainstream enough…..

  • SoBeSparky

    So I am looking at a photograph published in this morning’s Miami Herald of a boat on open water taken by birdwatcher Jeff Gilligan.

    Did it exist?  Gilligan says so.  Was a message passed on by three (3) birdwatchers?  These guys spend their free time looking through binoculars and scopes.  They are not amateurs.  They say they passed it along to a ship worker “who appeared to relay the message to the bridge.”

    Regretting a miscommunication is not enough.  Clearly, Carnival Cruise Lines has a communications problem several places, including with their Costa subsidiary.  Time for the criminal investigators to step in, not just corporate offers to pay off the relatives.
    Read more here: http://www.miamiherald.com/2012/04/19/2757434/star-princess-passed-boaters-in.html#storylink=cpy

  • scapel

    There seems to be something missing here. Did passengers actually communicate with the captain or just the front desk? Was it passengers that did not notify the captain but said that they did? I can’t believe that a captain given the proper information would ignore a distress call and not lower a boat to investigate. What about the helsman? Did he notice the fishing vessel? The officers on the bridge are constantly looking for things to do to make their time go by and I would think they would have been eyeing this fishing vessel with binoculars. They want to be sure the vessel does not stray into theri path so  they must have been watching it to some degree. If I was convinced that a vessel was in distress I would have been knocking on the bridge door. Sometimes there is confusion between waving hello and a distress wave. An upside flag is a distress call.

  • LeeAnneClark

    Um, methinks y’all are lending a little too much credence to Christopher’s unofficial poll.  This is not a court of law, and nobody is asking for a legal verdict.  He’s asking for your OPINION.  Give it or or not, it’s entirely up to you. Don’t answer if you don’t want to – nobody is making you. Given that we weren’t actually there, clearly all we can do is answer with our OPINION based on the information available. 

    I see nothing wrong with him posting a poll asking for the opinion of his readers. I do find it interesting that as of now, this poll is running 92% in favor of the OPINION that the captain ignored a vessel in trouble.

  • LeeAnneClark

    And that’s a reason to let two human beings die?  Because someone might complain?  Wow.  I can’t even begin to fathom the mindset behind this comment…

  • TrixiDelite

    You really are rude. I read this blog every day, I just don’t comment.

  • http://elliott.org Christopher Elliott

    I think it’s possible that Trixi knows the captain by his reputation, which, if I’m not mistaken, is a good one. Please, let’s be nice to one another.

  • dsliesse

    Okay, my wording could have been better, but my point was that we’re looking at a single report, with an obvious axe to grind, and being asked to form an opinion.  Sorry, I want more facts first, and at the time I answered this was not yet in any major news source I’d seen (since then, of course, it’s everywhere).

  • LeeAnneClark

    Of course you always have the option of not answering until you get more facts…

  • Raven_Altosk

    It is on CNN front page today, but it was not there yesterday.

  • cheazlit

    Raven, let’s get something straight right now.  I’ve been posting to this forum before you ever showed up.  It was under a different moniker (thanks alot disqus) but it was still me.  I also want to point out that I have no idea who Trixi is.  I’m just tired of the personal attacks that have ocurred on several threads (your reply is a good example of it).  The name calling and false innuendo are a great example of cyber-bullying.

    The families of the two men that died deserve to find out the truth.  As someone that has performed multiple root-cause investigations, I know that jumping to conclusions can actually interfere with the investigation.  Right now there are too many disconnects to determine “the truth”.

  • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=1356746066 Judy Colbert

    I was aboard the Holland America Westerdam almost five years ago in the Western Mediterranean, dinner time, Saturday night, when suddenly the ship changed speed and direction. A small boat, adrift, with eight men in it had been spotted. The captain sent a fast boat out and learned the men were trying to escape from Algeria when the motor died and they had only one oar. The men were brought aboard, checked by the doctor (one was dehydrated), put into two guarded cabins (no brigs anymore) and released to Algerian authorities the next morning. A surprising number of passengers were against this action, fearing that they were 1) terrorists or hijackers or 2) they were carrying some strange disease that would infect all of us. Fortunately, they were a small percentage.
    I can only imagine what happened to the men, but we had near hurricane-force winds and 20′-30′ seas that night and I can’t imagine them surviving those conditions.
    What puzzles me about the reports I’ve seen regarding the Princess incident is a supposed photo of the stranded fishermen in their boat with the cruise ship in the background. Who took that photo and why didn’t that person save them? I’m thinking a disgraceful Photoshop moment.

  • Raven_Altosk

    I’ve been here for 3+ years, so I doubt it. Your profile lists 1 post, this one. If you did have a different name, why not share it to prove your case?

    Also, let’s not use the word “cyber bullying.” Disagreeing with someone is NOT “bullying.” Neither is snarking on comments. Bullying is a persistent, targeted behavior directed at a single person.

    If you’re too sensitive to handle someone not patting you on the back, please push yourself away from they keyboard, press the power button on your computer, and never login again.

  • cjr001

    Raven, to be fair, I did see an article about this on MSNBC.com (I don’t really visit the other sites, nor do I watch news on TV).

    I believe Yahoo! also had an article on their front page about it at one point. Although, they tend to mostly aggregate stories and it can be a day or two after everybody else has already covered it, and they disappear pretty quickly.

    Edit: I see that these were brought up by others as well before I made my post. I should probably read all comments before I reply. :)

  • Raven_Altosk

    Yeah, it’s all over the place now (CNN, Fox, MSNBC, USAToday) but wasn’t at the time I posted I couldn’t find it. 

    MSNBC had it before, but as I said, it was buried in a travel section.

  • Jeanne_in_NE

    Hey, Raven, it must be big news.  Took up an entire page in *today’s* (Sat, 4/21) Omaha World-Herald.  Of course, I saw the original article on msnbc.msn.com before Chris’ blog posting.  (Yes, it was deep in “Travel”, but there.)

    Only takes my local paper a week or so to bring us Nebraskans the big world news . . .

  • cjr001

    They had it up near the top for a bit, which is when I read it. But in the end, headlines don’t remain headlines for very long on the major news sites unless it’s something huge.

  • cheazlit

    Name calling is bullying.  So are false accusations.

  • TrixiDelite

    Thank you for posting this update, Christopher. I doubt it will be seen, but I’m certainly happy it’s here.