Desperate for Southwest Airlines service, Charleston reaches into your pocket

Poor Charleston International Airport.

Apparently the air service offered by American Airlines, Continental Airlines, Delta Air Lines, United Airlines and US Airways isn’t enough. Now it wants Southwest Airlines, too, and it knows just how to get it — with a new 5 percent car rental tax.

Charleston’s County Council earlier this week reportedly pressed ahead with a new a tax on rental cars that’s meant to raise incentive money to lure a low-cost airline to town, presumably Southwest, as supporters wearing “Let’s Fly” stickers looked on approvingly.

Here’s the ordinance (PDF).

The money will be used to, “among other things, promote tourism and economic development through the provision of air service incentives, development, and advertising that facilitate additional flight options and increased competition for air travel,” according to the law.

Can you say “bad idea”?

Forgetting, for the moment, the questionable benefit to car renters of having Southwest Airlines service in Charleston — I mean, they’re renting a car, not flying — there’s the little issue of taxation without representation.

Quite simply, most of the car rental customers didn’t get to vote for the council members who passed this ordinance by an 8-1 vote. Nor will they get anything out of the increased air service, unless they use the airport and fly on Southwest. And those are two very big “ifs.”

This is only the latest bad idea from lawmakers on both the local and state level. Remember Wisconsin’s outragous car rental tax? Or Florida’s silly idea to fund Tri-Rail?

Look, I’m not opposed to taxes. They’re inevitable. But to not have a say-so in the matter, at some level, is wrong. (Even though Charleston’s goal, to bring a low-cost carrier to the airport, is a laudable idea, there has to be a better way.)

There’s also the issue of fairness, as one commenter pointed out on the Post and Courier’s site.

This is taxpayer subsidized competition being put in place that does not create a level playing field for the existing Charleston airlines.

Let the market decide who decides to fly here. If subsidies or money or funding is given to “one” airline, it should be given to them all to be fair.

It’s not over yet. Next up is a public hearing on May 20, which will leading to a final council vote on the tax. If you live in Charleston, you might want to show up. It starts at 6:30 p.m. in the Public Services Building, 4045 Bridge View Drive, North Charleston.

(Photo: hugging the coast/Flickr Creative Commons)

Update (5/11): This just crossed the wire.

Charleston, S.C. Welcomes Southwest Airlines

CHARLESTON, S.C., May 5, 2010 – Southwest Airlines announced it will begin service at both Charleston and Greenville International Airports within the next twelve months. According to a spokesperson for Southwest Airlines, the local Air Service Team’s collaborative efforts presented a compelling case for bringing low-cost air service to Charleston. Comprised of the Charleston County Aviation Authority, Charleston Regional Development Alliance, Charleston Area Convention and Visitors Bureau, and Charleston Metro Chamber of Commerce, the Air Service Team hosted airline officials during site visits and worked with legislators on air service incentive funding measures.

“This is a wonderful day for the citizens of the Charleston area,” says Teddie Pryor, Sr., chairman of Charleston County Council. “Having a low-cost carrier is a quality of life issue, and it will benefit our residents every bit as much as it does the business community.”

The addition of Southwest is a “major step forward for our entire region” according to David Jennings, chairman of the Charleston County Aviation Authority. “Gaining service from an airline with the reputation and track record of Southwest speaks volumes about the current and future potential of the Charleston market,” says Jennings. “Charleston fits well both geographically and strategically into Southwest’s future. It fills a big void in their southern network, which is currently empty from Raleigh to Jacksonville.”

Speaker of the S.C. House of Representatives Bobby Harrell, who was instrumental in the statewide effort to lure low-cost air service, anticipates a positive and immediate increase in statewide economic development activity. “The lack of a low-cost carrier has been one of our biggest challenges in attracting new investment and high-quality jobs to South Carolina,” says Harrell. “Telling prospects that our state is served by Southwest will be very well received.” The economic impact of one low cost carrier in the Charleston market is estimated at $139 million annually.

Southwest’s arrival is heralded as a boon to the local tourism economy according to Helen Hill, Executive Director of the Charleston Area Convention and Visitors Bureau. “The number one challenge we face in attracting meetings and conventions to the Charleston area has been the lack of flights and the high cost of airfare,” says Hill. “Having Southwest enter our market will not only have a moderating effect on airfares across the board, it will open up more seats to more places, which benefits everyone.”

Southwest is estimated to bring 200,000 additional passengers to the Charleston area annually, which Hill forecasts as a positive influence on the area’s $2.8 billion tourism industry. “Southwest Airlines has built its stellar reputation by providing exceptional customer service- something we in the Charleston hospitality industry appreciate!” says Hill.

Air consultant Joel Antolini of Seabury APG was contracted by the Charleston Air Service team to assess and strengthen the local market’s competitive edge. “This is the type of thing you can pull off when you’re working with a creative, energetic, ‘can-do’ community,” says Antolini. “In a refreshing and upbeat way, failing to bring Southwest to Charleston was never an option for this positive-minded group.”

  • Thomas

    I really don’t see the problem with this idea. As someone who used to live there, the prices to fly in and out of CHS have always been high. The city is doing what they can to help lower fares for it’s citizens by bringing in SWA. Someone from outside the area flying there will benefit from the lower airline costs, probably more than the additional 5% tax they will pay on the car rental, if they get a car!

  • Dan

    So if Southwest does come to Charleston, will the car rental tax be stopped?

  • JoD

    They couldn’t keep AirTran. What makes them think SWA will stay?

  • Mekhong Kurt

    Chris, the bad part of this idea is that the city wants to use public money for the benefit of a single airline. Not the tax part, not in and of itself.

    In Texas, where I’m from, municipalities can add their own sales tax on top of the state one. While it’s true that many people paying those municipal sales taxes are from the town or city, many are not.

    I from near the Dallas-Fort Worth area, and consider how many nonresidents make purchases in various cities in the Metroplex that do charge extra. Those people are being taxed without representation, too. Heck, I own land in the city of Dallas, but not only don’t live there, but not even in the county, so I don’t get to vote for *anyone* who fools around at the county and city levels. (In fact, I live abroad, making this all more irritating.)

    I will agree that this seems to be targeting outsiders to pay for local stuff, and I do question that.

  • FL Traveler

    I am not sure this is a bad idea either. Southwest provides such good service, especially up and down the east coast, Charleston seems a bit left out. Perhaps if Southwest were to include Charleston, it would force the other carrriers to improve their service and pricing. As for “taxation without representation,” that refers to governmential taxes, not “fees” (AKA taxes) enacted by non-governement sources or services.

  • sweepergrl

    @Thomas-

    With all due respect, there are many places I’ve flown in and out of that are WAY more expensive then Charleston. They already have 5 airlines in their airport, so I fail to see how adding SWA is going to dramatically lower prices. You want to see expensive? Try flying into parts of the Midwest, where the airports only have one or two airlines. Those are the cases where it costs more to fly 300 miles then to fly across the country.

    This is a terrible idea. I think any savvy traveler will see that the rental cars are more expensive and try to find a way around them, whether it be public transport or flying into a different airport.

  • Chris in NC

    Whew! I’m glad that Charleston is within driving distance from good ole NC.

    Seriously, this is kinda strange. So, the government wants to put a tax to raise money for an ad campaign? What EXACTLY are they going to do with the money? Is this going to pay for public officials to wine and dine execs from an airline? Travel to their HQs to make “pitches?” Or is it going to be used to subsidize service? Consider that CHS already has 5 carriers, do they really need a 6th one, even if it is a “low cost airline?” Be careful what you wish for! If WN does come to Charleston, it may reduce service elsewhere. Then residents who need to travel to destinations NOT served by the new carrier may be forced to pay even higher fares!

    Honestly, this sounds like idiotic politicians who are trying to appease the public without weighing in the net consequences of an action.

  • PauletteB

    There is a major problem with this idea. I live near a tourist area in Connecticut that does the same thing with additional hotel taxes. The reasoning: People from “away” don’t vote in local elections. Well, that tax also hits friends and relatives who come to visit, as well as people who need temporary accommodations because of fire/flood, etc. The same is true of car rental taxes, which affects locals whose car is in the shop or need a larger vehicle for a special occasion. I love Charleston, but as with other cities with these “out of towner” taxes, I’ll simply fly into another airport, rent a car elsewhere, and drive. I may well pay more than that tax money in additional gasoline, but it’s the principle, damn it!

  • Mike

    Phoenix has been doing this for years. Their airport rental car taxes are atrocious! Now they are going to add another tax to fund the Cubs new spring training complex. You have to rent offsite to have any type of reasonable cost. The justification is that the local citizens don’t have to pay for it; the tourists do.

  • Joel Wechsler

    If CHS is such a desirable destination, why does Soutwest need a subsidy to open a station there? I’m guessing that with five other carriers already serving the city there are probably few gates or landing/takeoff slots available. Typically, WN prefers to enter underserved markets like Providence, Manchester and Baltimore or markets where there are only one or two competitors. Charleston doen’t seem to fit that profile, and @sweepergrl is right about CHS not being as expensive as many other cities, Cleveland and Cincinnati being prime examples.

  • Arizona Road Warrior

    @ Mike – “Phoenix has been doing this for years. Their airport rental car taxes are atrocious!”
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    One taxes of the rental car taxes was for the stadium in Glendale. Within a few years, they collected the money necessary; however, they kept the ‘stadium’ tax in enforced.

    There was an article in USA Today listing the taxes and fees for rental car. It is very common to pay 30% to 50% of the daily car rental rate in taxes and fees.

  • Brian C

    @Mekhong: Even though you don’t live in Dallas, the value of the land your own is supported by the property taxes you pay. who would want a plot of land that didn’t have water or sewer service? Or the road to gain access to it? If it’s a residential plot, then who wants to live in a place where schools areunfunded? Without those taxes supporting the service, your plot of land may as well be in the middle of Alaska–unaccessible and without services–essentially economically worthless.

    Also, people have the chance to make their purchases in a city that does not impose additional taxes. The cost of that is additional driving, but they can avoid those taxes if they really want to.

    Hotel taxes and car rental taxes deliberately disproportionately target non-residents–people not likely to benefit long term from the tax. When Ohio wanted to balance their budget, they raised government fees–fees that only users of the system pay. For my professional license, the fees went up. instead of having them issue a letter of good standing to another state for free, it now costs $50. I’m not happy about it, but it makes sense because I’m the sole direct beneficiary for that service. Why should a carpenter in Cincinnati’s taxes support a service to help me get a license in another state?

    Likewise, why should visitors pay taxes to support a local campaign to bring another air carrier? They already support the economy with dollars brought in from outside the area for business or leisure. And in Charleston, they don’t exactly have a broad range of choices for convenient airports (maybe Savannah, but that’s even smaller…)

  • Arizona Road Warrior

    It is my guess that Southwest doesn’t fly into CHS because it isn’t profitable enough for them to do. SWA typically selects cities where there is a large volume of traffic.

    SWA doesn’t always have the lowest fares. Yesterday, I check fares from PHX to SLC. US Airways was $ 775 for three passengers and the fare from Southwest was $ 910…a difference of $ 135.

    If SWA gets incentives to fly into CHS, there is a possibility that the other airlines could cut flights which could lead to laying off local people.

    Also, if the tax is enacted, passengers could fly into other airports and drive to Charleston which will result in lower tax revenues, rental companies laying off people and etc.

  • Wrona

    The problem is not the tax. It’s that the politicians were stupid enough to announce the fact that the tax is solely for the benefit of a private entity. If they had said this rental car tax is to improve transportation into and within Charleston, both for residents and visitors, people would be cheering this ordinance. Instead, they said, hey we’re going to tax you so that we can give money to one business, one that hasn’t even made a definite agreement to come and contribute to the local economy.

  • David

    Eventually the rental car companies will get involved as they see their airport rentals decline. More and more travelers, who rent cars, have found the way to avoid paying for sports stadiums and other local amenities is to rent the vehicles off airport property where these ridiculous taxes are not imposed. It’s the same with hotels. Whenever possible, I will stay at a hotel in a neighboring county who does not have to participate in these taxing rituals. I reside in the DFW area and we are seeing more hotels being built in southern Denton County which is minutes from DFW airport and close to business areas but they do not charge the taxes that Dallas and Tarrant county hotels charge because Denton County does not have any sports stadiums to support.

  • Kevin M

    @Chris in NC: This isn’t for advertising or wine-and-dining (although there may be a little of that, eventually). “Incentive funds” like this are designed to subsidize airline operations to attract a new carrier to an airport. For example, the city might use some of the money to renovate a terminal so that the new airline doesn’t have to. Or they may actually directly subsidize flights – the city may guarantee, say, 25,000 emplanements per quarter and pay the airline $25 per emplanement that falls short, in exchange for the airline guaranteeing at least 4 departures daily with total seat capacity of 500/day. It’s a way of helping guarantee the airline won’t lose its shirt.

    Technically, ALL taxes paid by travelers are ones that the travelers don’t get to vote on. When I fly to California, I pay sales taxes, hotel taxes, car rental taxes, and more. If I work briefly while there, as a consultant, for example, I pay state income taxes on that income as well. About the only tax that only residents pay are property taxes, and if I bought a piece of property there, I could be taxed on that, too – and I wouldn’t get to vote on a single one of them.

  • Carver

    @Arizona

    Your statement that Southwest only flies highly profitable routes is right on target. Its also my pet peeve about everyone lauding Southwest’s business model. Can you imagine how crappy the airline system would be if everyone emulated Southwest’s model and cherry picked the most profitable markets and abandoned every other market.

    Don’t get me wrong, I laud the fact that Southwest has a model that works for them.

    But I can understand Charleston wanting to get Southwest in. Statistics suggst that the presence of a low cost carrier drives down the prices at a given airport.

  • Joe Farrell

    CHS is ALREADY one of the cheapest places to fly into in the Southeast, with fares sometimes hundreds of dollars less than Savannah, which is only 100nm down the road. If you want to come to the Low Country most folks do it by CHS since it is a fraction of the price of SAV or the less airports like Florence, Myrtle, Columbia or Hilton Head.

    The only way to get these taxes removed is to not fly there – and then write the Chamber of Commerce, cc’ing the mayor , as to WHY you did not fly there.

    If Florence or Columbia SC has the same air fare as CHS, but no outrageous taxes on rentals, I’ll fly in there – and city then gets zero revenue. Ooops, unintended consequence.

    I was going to fly into CHS when I came into our vacation home for a couple days in June, but when I saw the difference in airfare was $20 but the difference in car rental would be $70- well – there you go – they lost one customer already.

  • Clifw

    “Technically, ALL taxes paid by travelers are ones that the travelers don’t get to vote on”

    I live in DC. We don’t get to vote on ANY taxes! Wheeee!

  • Steve

    Well…I have mixed feelings about this. On one hand, better to use a car rental tax for something that’s actually going to benefit some travelers than to impose it on something totally ridiculous like a new sports stadium. On the other hand, I agree that there’s something I don’t like about a tax that’s designed to subsidize a particular business.

    As for the impact on tourism, I agree that the rental car tax will be a factor. I disagree that it will be a major factor. An extra 5% tax, even if your rental costs $1,000, adds $50 to the cost. For it to make sense to fly into another airport, not only would the airfare + rental car at the other airport have to be cheap enough to offset the tax, but the added costs (in time and money – gas, etc) of going to a different location have to be low enough that the other airport is still a good deal.

  • http://www.alaskatravelgram.com Scott McMurren

    Ah. In Fairbanks, they are using a Federal grant to subsidize Frontier Airlines to fly nonstop from Fairbanks to Denver. So, instead of local taxpayers, ALL of us get to help write the $300,000 (or so) check to Frontier. I think it is the “Rural Airports” grant or something like that. Frontier starts flying next week. Previously, the rate between Fairbanks and Denver was around $900. Now, it’s $480 or so…and it has dipped to $382 roundtrip. People in Fairbanks are happy.
    Closer to home, the folks in Tallahassee for years paid AirTran to fly from Atlanta, much to Delta’s chagrin.

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  • Heather

    I don’t see a problem w/ this idea if it results in cheaper fares to this destination. The flight prices right now are outrageous. Rental cars are extremely cheap here, so I don’t think 5% more is a big deal. I just traveled her in the past month for a wedding so I am speaking from recent experience.

  • MarkieAA

    @Kevin M

    You may be right on about what “incentive funds” are all about, I don’t know enough about it to make that call. But, assuming you’re right, whatever happened to a company doing its own market survey and making the business decision? If they’re right, good for them! If they’re wrong, oh well, better luck next time. Now apparently, they want/need the local government to “guarantee” them a profit.

  • Thomas

    @ sweepergrl
    @ Joe Farrell

    Today’s fares, non-stop, from travelocity

    ATL/SAV $ 208
    ATL/ILM $526
    ATL/EWN $390
    ATL/CHS $578

    Now who was saying the fares into CHS are some of the lowest? Please check the facts before making statements that are incorrect!

    I lived in Charleston for three years, As I fly 8 to 10 times a month, I know it’s one of the most exspensive cities to fly into in the SE. The numbers don’t lie!

  • Koala

    Kansas City is the perfect example why raising rental car taxes to pay for other stuff is a bad idea. Kansas City leadership decided it would be a good idea to charge rental car customers $4 per day to pay for debt repayment on bonds which support the finances of the Sprint Center. Trouble is, Sprint Center has not been able to attract a sports team as an anchor tenant. Basically it is a big, expensive concert venue and KC is always listed as one of the most expensive locations to rent a car where taxes are routinely 40-50% on top of the daily rate.

    The new irony is that KC leadership is now discussing the urgent need to build and publicly finance a 1000 room convention hotel to attract more and bigger conventions. Any bets whether the hotel or car rental tax will be increased to pay for bonds on this project?

  • Joe Farrell

    @Thomas – go check the fares from the northeast and midwest . . . no one flies to either SAV or CHS From ATL – CHS is a 6 hr drive from ATL. Or perhaps – people DO fly from ATL to CHS – hence the pricey airfare. DL and AirTran don’ want originating customers cloggging their shot haul connecting flights, hence the high air fare

    If you negotiate a connecting flight from ANYWHERE THROUGH ATL to CHS, the fare will be lower than to SAV.

    I’ll tell you a secret about Southwest. Initially they come in and the fares fall. Then, other carriers see their margins going so they go to RJ’s – and voila, once again are making money at WN level fares. WN then starts raising its fares – or – at least there is less than a 40% spread between the top fare and the lowest fare you can normally get [not the crazy sale fares that are only available on Tues from noon to 4 and Saturday after 3pm in any given market] you start to notice an interesting phenomenon – Southwest no longer has the lowest fares in any given market- they are undercut by $50 or $70 each way by everyone else – until their cheapest fares are sold out – then the other carriers raise their fares.

    A study done in Connecticut while I lived there showed that WN reduced fares by 14% the first year they were flying out of BDL.. By the fourth year, fares had gone UP 28% with fewer choices, fewer nonstops and virtually no first or business class seats left in ANY market out of Hartford. WN came in and the result was less frequent service and higher fares on any route WN did not fly, and, moreover, Southwest no longer or at least rarely had the lowest commonly available fare; i.e., the fares that do not require booking between 2 and 3 am or while wearing a pink hat on tuesday.

  • Arizona Road Warrior

    @ Thomas,

    I checked fares on Orbitz…departing on 5/27/10 and returning on 5/29/10…flying from PHX to the cities that you used in your examples. The lowest fares of the fares to travel almost across the country is less than the fares to fly from ATL to these cities in three of the four examples…only the 45-minute flight from SAV to ATL cost less than PHX to SAV.

    PHX to CHS
    US $ 348
    DL $ 290
    CO $ 394
    AA $ 396
    UA $ 396

    PHX to SAV
    US $ 327
    DL $ 330
    CO $ 334
    AA $ 336
    UA $ 336

    PHX to IML
    US $ 297
    UA $ 334
    DL $ 336
    AA $ 625
    CO $ 809

    PHX to EWH
    US $ 297
    UA $ 297
    DL $ 306
    AA $ 590
    CO $ 820

    It is my guess that you look at one airline (Delta). Also, I think that it is unfair to use ATL…I doubt it that only people that lives in ATL are the only visitors to CHS. If you use ATL and Delta, the fares are pricey. I used to live in ‘Delta’ country and the fare for a direct flight from my city to ATL was $ 500 to $ 700; however, the fares on flights to LAS, LAX, PHX, etc. where I connect through ATL were much less (i.e. $ 300 to PHX).

    You need to look at all of the fares for all of the destinations to determine if the airport is expensive. I know that CVG is expensive as reported in the USA Today but I didn’t read about CHS in this report.

  • Cassivella

    The idea that Southwest has the lowest fares is an urban legend. Southwest hasn’t had the lowest fares out of CMH for years. I can usually fly Delta at 2/3 the price of Southwest, but yet the uninformed masses continue to moo and flock to Southwest because they lack the ability to do a simple web search for prices.

    By the way, this week I am in Charleston, SC. My FIRST CLASS, round trip ticket from CMH to CHS cost all of $485.

    I can fly round-trip to PHL on Delta for $70. I can fly to PHX for less than $160 on Delta. Both of these airports are both Southwest and US Airways hubs.

    But seriously – go ahead and overpay on Southwest – it makes the security lines shorter for me.

  • Arizona Road Warrior

    @ Joe Farrell

    Southwest Airlines is like Wal-Mart. Wal-Mart built their brand by advertising that they have the lowest prices (“Always the lowest”). If you have noticed, Wal-Mart changed their slogan in the past year or so because Wal-Mart doesn’t always have the lowest prices. I found items at Target or the local grocery store with lower prices than Wal-Mart.

    For years, Southwest advertised that they have low fares. The public believed it. Every time that I compared fares on US Airways to Southwest Airlines, the fares on US Airways were lower or the same (usually lower). This is why fares for Southwest Airlines are NOT included in the various fares engines because they don’t want the public to find out.

  • Arizona Road Warrior

    There is a Travelocity study showing the average airport tax on car rentals is 28.04 percent compared to 14.9 percent at off airport rental locations.

  • Arizona Road Warrior

    Back in 2007, USA TODAY analyzed rental taxes and fees at the nation’s 25 busiest airports and found the top five were:

    Kansas City, 35%
    Seattle, 31%
    Houston/Bush, 30%
    Phoenix, 29%
    Dallas-Ft. Worth, 28%; Las Vegas, 28%

  • Alex

    While I would normally say that this would be a good idea (a lcc, like southwest, would lower prices throughout the whole spectrum of airlines flying into CHS), this has already been tried, and failed. Airtran airways already tried to fly into the airport, and couldn’t sustain its service. While incentives to lcc’s are a good thing, and sometimes get them to try routes they otherwise wouldn’t, if the route isn’t sustaniable, it won’t be profitable, and it just won’t work.

  • Thomas

    OK, so some of you are saying it’s less exspensive to fly into another airport, rent a car, and drive to Charleston. Let’s use Wilmington as someone suggested. Rent your car, drive the 170 miles to Charleston. At 25 MPG and gas @ $2.95 a gallon, it’s going to cost you $ $40.12 in fuel. Not to mention the 8 hours of driving Route 17. If you flew into Charleston and rented a car @ $50 a day, (I doubt some of you would spend that much) an additional 5% tax on the car would come to $ 17.50. Even flying into Myrtle Beach, you’re looking at 200 miles of driving!

    Get my point!

    By the way, this is a story about Charleston. Yes there are a LOT more exspensive places to fly. I just returned from Djibouti and my ticket was over $8000.00!

    Get my point

  • http://www.stevehopkinsphotography.com shoppix

    would love to have SW fly to Charleston. Thinking of moving to the area for ‘life after kids’! Sort of retirement from current job and living in New England! And, if as already mentioned, the SW fares would be that much lower to offset the 5% tax, I an for it.

  • Leslie

    This just doesn’t seem fair. I’m thinking of the person who needs to rent a car while they car they own (or owned) is being repaired or was totaled in an accident. I can’t believe that the insurance companies who pay for these rentals arent’ going to squawk!. Oh of course not – they will pass these costs on to ALL the drivers in this state! Talk about a City shooting all its citizens in their feet!

  • Thomas

    @ Leslie

    I lived in Fl. for years and years. How about the 10% bed tax? Our power went out after a hurricane and we stayed in a hotel for 5 days. We go to Orlando, we stay in a hotel. I don’t know where you live, but do you travel within your state? You’re paying the tax too!

  • Steve

    “The idea that Southwest has the lowest fares is an urban legend.”

    It’s just as inaccurate to say that SW never has the lowest fare as it is to say that they always have the lowest fare. There are way too many variables involved for any carrier to always be the highest or lowest. I’d advise anyone booking a flight to always search every single carrier (and every reasonable airport, if you live somewhere where you have more than one feasible option) before buying.

    Personally, every time I’ve flown SW, it has been the least expensive option by a significant margin (and each time, it would have been the cheapest even if I was not checking any bags and bag fees weren’t a factor). And I include four originating airports in my searches, one of which is ORD.

    I’m not surprised that someone else flying a different route could have a very different experience, and I agree that people who think SW is always the cheapest are shortsighted. But SW has a reputation for being inexpensive for a reason.

  • Bart

    @Joe D “They couldn’t keep AirTran. What makes them think SWA will stay?”
    =======================================================
    You hit the nail on the head Joe. Airtran didn’t last much more than a year at CHS. The truth of the matter is that there is not enough business and tourism demand from distant markets to support more flights than they currently have. My guess is that they are not collecting enough revenue to pay for that big new parking garage they built and the resurfacing of the runway.

  • Gary

    Just out of curiosity, how many of you actually live in Charleston ? I fly ~ 25 – 40 trips a year in/out of Charleston on all the airlines. I have driven to Myrtle Beach, Columbia, and Savannah on a number of occasions to get the lower fare. When certain tourism activities heat up, Charleston can become very expensive to fly in and out of. I agree with concerns about whether the market can support another airline (which only time will tell), but it might have a nice short-term impact.

    I agree with comments about public tax money going directly to corporations, but it is no secret that every state and region in the country now uses various form of incentives to lure companies to their localities. I don’t like it, but if you don’t do it, someone else surely will. The ROI is hard to measure and who knows when if ever it will pay back. For a town that thrives on tourism and “second home” money, the additional options will be good for me, a regular business traveler that calls Charleston home.

  • Thomas
  • Ray

    Love all the comments from around the country, but if you lived in Charleston
    and fly much, you might think differently. We have US Air which has the poorest record of granting FF miles with a 11% success compared to Southwest’s rate of 99% !! (reference Wall Street Journal, May) When Southwest pilots complete their preflight check, they look around to see if they are needed to help get passengers boarded, even if it means they go outside and help load baggage! They have good safety records and respect their customers time. They stay profitable because employees work as a team to provide excellent service. They also expand the potential number of choices when flights require multiple stops, which can often reduce wait time at multiple stop trips. I just returned from Australia to Charleston, which entailed over 10 hours of “sit” time in airports between flight legs. The more airlines and flights available, creates more competition, more
    choices in routes to save miles (time), and convenience. Think about it like
    going to a movie, or a convenience store–the more choices, the more the public is served. How much fun it would be to live in a community that restricted the number of theaters, convenience stores and restaurants. More competition–more choices for customers. I say bring them on with banners and parades!

  • shocked

    I am originally from Houston, which was 3rd for highest taxes on the list above. A whole 5% isn’t much compared to most other cities where 30% is the norm. I would be thrilled to see our taxes be at an astonishing 5%.

    I’ve never been to Charleston, but I’m a frequent flier worldwide. I’m shocked at the fares I’m getting for my trip to Charleston. If I didn’t HAVE to go, I wouldn’t bother. If I could, I would also drive the 8-10 hrs from my current city and save $350 in the difference. I assume a lot of potential tourists are the same way.

    I found this article while trying to see if airtan or southwest offer flights to the area. I agree with those who say that Southwest doesn’t always have the cheapest flights, but if you get their email alerts or keep your eye for the right time to buy, you can definitely get a much better deal, especially when you factor in their services. I’m happy to see you get their service, I’m sad it will be after my trip this fall.

  • Good

    low cost airline is desperately needed in Charleston. theres no reason a flight from charleston to atlanta should cost $400. When a cheap airline moves in all the big boys, (Delta, AA, USAir) drop their prices but as soon as they steal all their flights and push out the cheap airline, they jack up the rates, so maybe SWA will break that trend. who cares if theres a rental car tax. if you come here enough you should be happy about the fact that your $600 ticket might be $100 in a year. Unless you like flying into Charlotte renting a car and driving 3 hours to Charleston.

  • Mike Vaughan

    Some of you people ( and I think its the same guy) Have no Idea what you are talking about. Charleston SC is one of the most expensive cities to fly in and out of period. We couldnt keep Air Tran here because Delta lowered its fares to below what Air Tran could tolerate as a business so they left. Then, Delta jacks the fares back up 4, 5, And 600 $$$. They have been undercutting discount airlines for over a decade. When they leave (not because we couldnt keep them) Delta gouges the Lowcountry. Delta will not be able to do that to SW. Its like a grade school playground and the bully now has to deal with someone his own size. Probably wont even look at em !