Can this trip be saved? We want $1,000 for a bogus weather delay

I‘ve been weighing this case for several months, and still can’t decide what to do. Maybe you can help.

It comes to me by way of Jonathan Cook, who was a passenger on US Airways flight 1018 from Philadelphia and St. Thomas on Dec. 30, 2009. He represents a group of 80 passengers who were delayed almost a full day under mysterious circumstances. They want to be compensated by the airline, which insists it owes them nothing because it claims the entire delay was weather-related.

This case first was brought to my attention late last year and Cook has written to me several times since then. Let’s run through the highlights.

The nonstop flight took off around 10 a.m., as scheduled. But it was placed in a holding pattern around St. Thomas for about an hour and then diverted to San Juan. The reason? US Airways claims the plane made an unplanned landing because of rough weather.

The passengers deplaned, waited in the terminal several hours, and then reboarded the flight at around 6 p.m.

We sat on the plane until 8:30 p.m. without food or water, and with limited information from the flight crew. We were told by the pilot that while the weather had improved in St. Thomas, we were in a gatelock due to an outgoing traffic jam. Eventually, the pilot told us that weather had worsened again.

In the meantime, some passengers had received phone calls and text messages that other airlines were landing planes in St. Thomas, so they began to doubt US Airways’ claims. Finally, the passengers were told their crew had timed out, which means they couldn’t continue to work under union rules. They were taken off the plane at 8:45 p.m.

We were told to return to the airport at 7 a.m. for a 9 a.m. flight. In the meantime, no taxi or hotel vouchers were provided, nor was assistance or information offered in terms of locating hotels. By 11:30 p.m., bags were reclaimed from the baggage claim and passengers were left on their own, or forced to help one another. The attitude from US Airways was clearly, ‘This is your problem, not ours’.

But the crew didn’t show up until later that morning, leaving the passengers waiting an additional two hours.

A minor mechanical problem caused yet another delay, forcing the passengers to wait until noon to depart.

Cook asked US Airways for $1,000 per passenger in compensation to cover expenses and lost vacation time, but US Airways repeatedly turned them down. Here’s its last email.

We regret you continue to be dissatisfied with our attempts to resolve your concerns. Although we cannot offer compensation or assume responsibility for flight irregularities that occur beyond our control, such as weather, we sincerely apologize for the interruption in your travel plans.

Moreover, we are remorseful for the manner in which your situation was handled.

Mr. Cook, your concerns have been thoroughly documented and reviewed by the appropriate management teams in San Juan. Additionally, our Senior Management Team at Corporate is aware of your experience. Your file is now considered closed and no further correspondence will be forthcoming regarding this matter.

We look forward to serving you on a future US Airways flight.

I think they might have skipped that last sentence. It’s pretty clear Cook and the others will be avoiding US Airways, if possible.

I have mixed feelings about this case. While the initial delay may have been caused by weather, it seems to have been exacerbated by a timed-out crew, which caused an unexpected layover, and additional mechanical problems. Saddling passengers with the cost of accommodations, in that case, would be wrong.

Yet asking for $1,000 per passenger might be too much. I think it’s reasonable to request the airline cover the cost of meals, transportation costs to their hotel and lodging expenses for the overnight delay, which appears to have been caused by a crew scheduling issue, not a weather problem.

Another wrinkle in this case is the paper trail and the amount of time that’s elapsed. This flight took place more than a year ago. Older cases are far more difficult to resolve, in my experience.

Given the age of this problem, and the strong likelihood that the airline will say “no” again (based on its final response to Cook) I’m not sure if I should take this case.

Even though a majority of the poll participants want me to send this case to US Airways, I don’t think it will reopen this case.

  • Joe Farrell

    It can contractually shortened however – though in a contract of adhesion I’m not so sure .. .

  • Michael K

    If you bother to check the link I posted at the bottom of my comment, you can verify for yourself that the wind was remarkably consistent from 5:30pm Dec 30 2009 all the way through the eventual arrival time on Dec 31.

    If you check flight arrival histories on flightstat.com, you can verify for yourself that several other flights traveled from SJU to STT during the OP’s delay (including the US Airways flight from CLT which was due to arrive at STT and got diverted to SJU at nearly the same time as the OP’s flight).

  • Joe Farrell

    So how long is that excuse valid? Heck, planes might still be delayed because of a blizzard in February that screwed up air traffic!

  • Bclay

    The fault was not Mother Nature’s. Passengers were treated rudely. The crew and US Air knew exactly what time the crew would “die”, per union rules. They also knew what kind of gate jam would occur. I’ve been in a US Air situation almost like this, and probably the worst thing is being lied to, knowing you’re being lied to and unable to do anything about it. Give them reasonable expenses and a $500 voucher good for US Air travel. That is about the only way these folks will ever fly that airline again. I’ve called crews for fail freight and if I had delayed freight because a crew went “dead”, I would have had a few days “off”.

  • Sershev

    Similar situations happen quite often when you fly to SFO and arrival is metered. Tens of planes are in holding and whoever runs out of fuel get diverted to OAK, SjC or monterrey. Lucky ones get landed at SFO. And if you flying on United you can hear all communication on channel 9. Believe me, airline crews are begging air traffic controllers to clear for landinding and it is trully outside of the airline control. Do you think they deliberately want to take plane and crew out of schedule? It cost a lot of money. I was on the plane that got diverted due to air traffic control/weather and another time we got lucky and landed after almost an hour in holding. I could hear communications from the Sfo approach and was aware many planes landed where they were suppose to land and many got diverted. It is just a pure luck. I guess travel insurance should be a solution to cover expences related to divertion not the airline. And believe me any other carrier would do the same. Although, United or Delta would probably offer $100 – 150 voucher as a goodwill gesture.

  • MikeZ

    I agree. I was once circling the Atlanta airport a few months before the Olympics in 92 IIRC on a Jet Blue flight. The weather was stormy and the pilot kept telling us there were weather issues. When we finally landed, I noticed a lot of those emergency trucks along side the runway. As we got our bags and headed to my relatives, I watched the news. As it turns out, a flight had nearly slid off the runway and that was the reason for the delay, not the weather.

  • Nobodygottimeforstupid1

    For those of you who don’t fly every week….weather delays, mechanical delays and air traffic delays happens EVERY DAY. and sometimes ALL TOGETHER. So please Mr. Cook don’t take it personally that it targeted only YOUR flight. Sounds to me you are trying to get money out of this incident. If the airline refunded you and everyone else on that aircraft then they must refund everytime an aircraft is delay which happens everyday..then is there even a business left???! If an airline decides to delay a flight there must be a safety reason behind it. Trust me Airlines don’t delay their planes for the fuck of it. They need to get that plane flying so please next time you question a delay make sure you pull your head out of your ass and think about it for a second that maybe there might be windshear that can bring down a plane or hidden mechanical issues with an aircraft. Does your vacation really matter more then you and everyone Else’s life on that plane? DOES IT? Think about it.

    Those Rules and regulations, they don’t just make it up to make you(traveling public’s) lives difficult. It exists because blood has spilled on the subject or a past fatal accident had occured and thats why it’s there. They don’t just magically appears.

    So please don’t be a damn fool and call up your friends/family and ask about the weather over at your destination and think that if it’s not raining or storming there are other consideration for the pilots to land that plane safely after a storm. Quit being an ignorant….