Can this trip be saved? “We feel cheated as tourists”

Before Steven Barlow returned his rental car at Orlando International Airport in December, he did what most rental customers do who are trying to avoid a fuel surcharge: He found a gas station and topped off his tank.

Then he looked at the digital display on the pump at the Suncoast Energies station, which seemed to be moving faster than normal. Then he looked up and saw the prices were nearly twice the going rate for gas in Florida — an incredible $4.89 per gallon.

We could see no signs advertising the price. The clerk told me that they could charge this price as the station was close to the airport, and offered no other reason as to why they didn’t need to advertise. Basically, too bad you stopped and thanks for being stupid and giving us your money.


Actually, Barlow and his family were probably among the last victims of this scam. A new Orlando city ordinance went into effect late last year requiring clear disclosure of gas prices near the airport, and the stations he visited, which primarily cater to time-strapped car rental customers, had yet to comply.

Barlow’s wife continues,

My husband stopped pumping the gas at $15 and we went across the street to the Shell Station.

To our surprise, it also charged $4.89 per gallon. We had based our timetable on the gas station location provided to us and didn’t have many options other than to purchase the gas or risk being late by looking for another station.

10.497 gallons of gas cost $51.42 at the Shell station along with the $15 from Suncoast Energies. Mind you, the 20-some dollars did not break us, but it was the feeling that we had been scammed or gouged.

The Barlows sent a letter to Florida’s attorney general.

The answer? A form letter saying, “One of the best ways consumers can participate in our market economy is to patronize those fuel stations that offer more competitive prices.”

“Apparently she missed the point,” he says. “We didn’t know what their prices were because there was no visible sign indicating it. Who would have thought that they would be charging $4.89 versus $2.97?”

True enough.

The Barlows should have looked before they pumped, of course. But when you’re on a tight schedule, who has the time to pay attention to gas prices? I mean, that’s how Suncoast and Shell were able to charge twice the going rate to their customers. They had ‘em over a barrel.

Mediating this type of case might be difficult. I could contact Suncoast and Shell at the corporate level, giving them an opportunity to make things right. But I can predict the response: either none (most likely) or a form apology and a gift card that they may or may not be able to use (less likely).

I’m not opposed to trying.

But before I do, there’s the question of whether I should even get involved. The Barlows willingly visited these overpriced gas station and they paid for the fuel without disputing the price.

Did they fall into a tourist trap? Absolutely. But no one forced them.

At the same time, I think these gas stations’ actions are predatory and reprehensible. I live in Orlando, and they give our tourism industry a bad name. I’m grateful for the city ordinance that will make it illegal to conceal the real price of fuel, and am only sorry it didn’t come soon enough for the Barlows.

“We didn’t mind all the money we spent enhancing Florida’s economy,” says Steven Barlow. “We feel cheated as tourists.”

What do you think? Should I mediate this case?

(Photo: Hy Ku/Flickr Creative Commons)

  • Arizona Road Warrior

    “I live in Orlando, and they give our tourism industry a bad name.”

    “We didn’t mind all the money we spent enhancing Florida’s economy,” says Steven Barlow. “We feel cheated as tourists.”
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    The reality is that tourists are ‘cheated’ all over the world not just in Orlando.

    I have stayed at a hotel where there were five (5) separate taxes\fees. It is common that taxes\fees are 20% to 40% of the rental car charge. The local government\state government\etc. knows that tourists don’t vote, have limited information, reduced options (i.e. where are you going to stay when you are on vacation or business?), etc.

    In some areas, scam artists\thieves\picketpockers\etc. target tourists because they realize that the local police won’t do anything because the victim is not a local person.

  • Mike in NC

    This is what the result of Zone Pricing is – a station or 2 that charge double the average price. Its not criminal, but it’s shameful nonetheless.

    I voted yes to mediation, for all the good it will do. Perhaps the exposure will result in some changes. I agree with the others about going to the FL AG and Orlando City Council, for all the good that will do as well.

    I’d love to see them do what the NJ Turnpike Authroity has done with the rest areas on the NJ Turnpike (And maybe the Garden State Parkway, not 100% sure about that one): The stations can only charge what the state average for that particular grade of fuel is, AND, they can only raise their prices once a week. (NJ State law states that no gas station owner can raise prices more than 1x/day, this is more stringent). The NJTP looks at it like this, if you don’t want the contract, don’t sign it.

    Maybe that can be expanded upon, but I doubt it, unless the airport has some sort of control over the stations (Rent of space, etc)

  • Kathryn

    I have also stopped at that gas station and until pulling up to the pump had no idea how expensive the gas is. By the way – you can go one mile further away from the airport on the same road and the gas is much much cheaper. It is worth the extra five minutes. You should advocate for this guy because the price is not posted anywhere except on the pump. RIP OFF!!!!

  • Les

    I disagree that the Barlows were not ‘forced’ to accept these ripoff prices. Certainly they were. They were on their way to the airport in an unfamiliar location and pressed for time. If anyone reading this can actually claim they have not been in a similar position I will be amazed. There are fewer gas stations now than even a few years ago. In car-centric Los Angeles last month we had to scramble to find a station on the way to Burbank Airport.

    In addition we are warned that rental companies are gleefully penalizing customers who have not topped off their tanks. My sympathies are completely with the Barlows.

  • Collin Schulz Shepard

    I voted to mediate. If no one says anything, we will continue to pay the outrageous fuel prices. Does anyone feel that the airfare and gas prices will go down if we begin to use some of our fuel reserves? I am a travel agent and have clients that have put their travels on hold because of the rising airfares.

  • flutiefan

    David Z pretty much hit the nail on the head, for me.

  • Clifw

    Here’s a wacky idea, if there’s no sign for a product, ask someone what the price is before handing over the ol’ credit card. And in future don’t wait until the drive to the airport to completely re-fill the tank.

  • Rich

    Seems like a lot of us are operating under presumptions that this is price-gouging and that it’s illegal not to post a sign with the prices noted. Just because that not the way things are done most other places doesn’t mean that it’s illegal. I saw a story about these very stations on the news a few months ago; so I’m sure that the Florida AG’s office is aware of it.
    Don’t get me wrong, I’m not saying that this practice is right… it’s just not illegal.
    I suppose it’s also not illegal to spread the word about this practice to others!

  • Mike H

    Mediate with who? The gas station won’t care, they know exactly what they’re doing. The problem is one of deception and that’s about to change due to the new requirement requiring road-side signage.

  • larry b

    You mean the price was not posted on the pump? I’m fairly sure I know the answer to that. I also think most states have laws on that. On the other hand, if they did not verify the price before pumping, shame on them. The stations are merely charging what the market will bear. That’s true at most businesses. It is called the free market. It is not price gouging. That would be if you were quoted one price and then charged a higher price. Doesn’t make it right. But really, this is the type of situation where the business never has to worry about getting repeat business to stay in business.

  • http://www.saschasegan.com Sascha Segan

    @Chris, I am absolutely open to reading a piece on “why Orlando is not the worst place in America to go for a business trip.” :) Seriously, there are lots of great places to live that aren’t great places to visit. You can have nice weather, reasonable real estate prices, great neighbors and good schools, combining into a pleasant lifestyle for a resident, and never have to deal with gouging cab drivers, I-Drive traffic, or finding a place to eat near the convention center that isn’t “fast casual.”

  • Arizona Road Warrior

    @ cloudsifter – “Here’s the thing, sue the station in small claims court, get together and make a class action suit, tweet the price, there must be some deceptive business practices here.”
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    Since the OP lives out of state, it is not practical for them to sue the two gas stations. More importantly, the price was fully disclosed on the pump so they could have left and find another gas station with cheaper gasoline. It is a possibility that these two gas stations were in violation of local laws. The OP could have taken pictures\movies of these two gas stations and file a complaint. However, the OP won’t get back their money, a refund or etc. IF these two gas stations were in violation of local laws. Every time that the government fines a busines, the money goes to them not the victims.

  • http://www.skytoaster.com/ Logan

    I voted no, since this family has clearly already voted with their wallets, but I do think this needs to go up the chain of both the corporate parents and back to the Florida AG’s office. If these stations are in violation of a county ordinance, then Orange County Code Enforcement and/or the Sheriff’s office need to be called.

  • Steve H

    I voted not to mediate but only because it would be a waste of time. That many states, mine included, require gas stations to post easily readable price information developed after gas prices exploded in the 1970s. I’d be interested in knowing which states resist doing so today. As for the free market comment: well yes, it is a free market, but information clearly posted should be part of that market rather than having someone assume that the price will be close enough to the average price, pull in and then discover an extortionate price but goes ahead anyway because they are presssed for time. Finally, I just filled my tank at a station next to Oakland International Airport and the price was the lowest I’ve seen locally–and I do pay attention.

  • LadySiren

    @Sascha I dunno if Orlando is the “worst”…the last time I was there for TechEd, I had a good time hanging out at the various parties scattered throughout Orlando. The weather was nice, the food was good, and while yes, the I-Drive traffic was terrible, I simply let my taxi driver take care of that for me while I lounged around in the back. Now if only I could’ve squeezed in a trip to WDW while I was there…

    My least favorite biz trip city? Has to be Chicago. I’m probably biased because I used to have to go to tradeshows there in the height of winter but it’s still high on my list of “please don’t make me go!” cities.

  • David K

    @chris

    next peeps will be asking you to mediate the prices of food and drinks in resort attractions. buyer beware !

  • Alittlecommonsense

    No way should Chris mediate this one. As stated before, they had the free will to purchase gas at that station. No one forced them to buy gas there. Look at http://www.orlandogasprices.com. The Orlando airport is literally surrounded by gas stations that charge $2 less than these two knuckleheads.

    This is how I surmise the situation went down: When driving back to the airport, the OP saw all of these stations advertising gas for $3.49 a gallon. They remembered that there were a couple of stations right next door to the rental agency so decided to fill up there, assuming that the price would be the same. It’s their own fault for not checking the price on the pump. You know what happens when people assume.

    There are lots of people with genuine travel grievances for whom Chris should be advocating, not these bozos who couldn’t be bothered with checking the price of gas.

  • Roberto

    I haven’t read through the comments, so I don’t know if anybody has recommended Gas Buddy yet, but I’ll do it now. It’s free, and It’ll tell you the prices for all the gas stations around you based on your GPS, and it’ll even navigate you to the station you chose.

    Free apps for Android and (I assume) iPhone. Saved me a ton of money.

  • http://www.phoenixjustice.com Phoenix Justice

    I remember when I was 9 (1978) traveling with my family to Albuquerque from Iowa. Dad saw a gas station in Texas had a sign up saying gas was 50 cents which was 30 cents cheaper than any place else that we had seen. He pulled in and started pumping and then realized that it was 50 cents per litre not 50 cents per gallon.

    The road sign didn’t say 50 cents per litre and so the assumption was that it was per gallon. Luckily dad realized his mistake quickly stopped pumping $5.00 and we went to one of the places advertising at 80 cents.

    Sometimes its not until too late that you realize you have been hoodwinked. I recommend advocacy.

  • Wrona

    If you search the internet there are stories of these 2 gas stations routinely charging exorbitant prices. I know I’ve been seeing posts on Cruise Critic warning against using these stations for at least 5 years, The problem is, unless you have a smart phone, you probably aren’t going to be aware of what the alternative is or how to get there (or fast it will take), especially in a city you are just visiting.

    I don’t know what good mediating would do in this case, but bad publicity for stations like this can’t hurt as hopefully it will mean less people will get caught by these stations. I can accept a little higher pricing for convenience but almost double the going rate a few miles away is way outside the bounds of propriety.

  • http://theinfamousj.livejournal.com Little J

    I voted, “No,” because

    1/ Though I, too, have been surprised by the price of gas after I’ve pulled into a station in South Florida, (I know Orlando isn’t South … but I was) I did have the sense to look at the pricing listed digitally over the nozzle. If I didn’t like it, and sometimes I didn’t, then I restarted the car and drove elsewhere.

    2/ How much was the fuel surcharge? After realizing that both stations near the airport were overcharging, I wouldn’t have gone to a cheaper station and been late, nor pumped at either of those. I would have taken the fuel surcharge. In my experience, fuel surcharges are on the high-ish end of reasonable, which is lower than the price per gallon of either station they visited.

  • Banner123

    I say to not mediate this case. This is entirely the OPs fault for not checking the price before pumping and assuming the price was comparable to local prices. I also believe the OPs excuse about being on a tight schedule is not a valid argument, make time in your schedule for issues like this. If you don’t give yourself any leeway in your schedule, that is your own fault. What would he have said if he hit traffic and missed the flight because he “didn’t foresee any traffic issues” when he made his schedule.

  • L2Y2

    Chris, I voted no. It seems you are getting a lot of people griping to you about situations that either are their own fault or out of the area of travel advocate. Yes, they were taken advantage of. But, the price was probably on the pump before they started filling the tank. We’ve made the mistake of waiting until we are that close to the rental drop off to fill up. We have learned not to do that. This is a petrol consumer issue, not necessarily a travel consumer issue. The Barlow’s need to take this up with Shell on their own, report them to whatever agency regulates them in Florida, or learn from their mistake for their next trip.

  • suz

    I did a quick search and Sun Coast Gas Station by Orlando Airport has 72 1 star reviews – no one has anything good to say about them. Review title range from “STAY AWAY!!! PRICE GOUGING!!! ” to “Total ripoff.” Some of the reviews even give clear direction to other gas stations in the area with normal pricing.

    I do not think mediating is going to help this situation – I would be surprised if they apologized at all. They know what they are doing and just don’t care. Few people read reviews when searching for gas, so they will probably continue to get away with it.

  • Cornhusker

    West of Kearney along I-80 here in Nebraska, there are gas stations that advertise low-ball gas prices on huge signs visible to the Interstate traffic, but there is a catch. That price is ONLY available at one pump out of many there, and that pump is often “broken”. The pump is NOT clearly marked..you have to be right up to it to see..otherwise you will pay about 80-90c per gallon MORE. Our AG at first clamped down on them and then backed off for some reason, and travelers that go through Nebraska constantly complain.

  • Poverty Jetsetter

    I had the exact same thing happen to me yesterday in Orlando at the same two gas stations. I paid $5.19/gallon when the other stations I saw in Florida were charging ~$3.50/gallon. I was so frustrated that I was actually going to write to Chris to see whether he had any suggestions on how to address this scam that preys on tourists–in fact, that is why I came to visit the site today (so I was amazed to see a post already addressing this exact issue).

    I am a pretty experienced and savvy traveller, who has returned cars at numerous airports across North America in the past couple of years (at least: MIA, YYZ, YUL, EWR, FLL, PHL, YEG, YVR, ONT, DEN). I have never had a problem finding a reasonable priced gas station right near the airport.
    I do expect to pay a few extra cents near the airport, but not 50% more.

    Unfortunately, I did not have my GPS with me or else I would have gone to another nearby gas station. I felt totally scammed as I was filling the tank, but given my impending flight and lack of knowledge about the area, I did not want to risk finding another gas station with reasonable prices (which is what they obviously count on). I guess there is nothing illegal about this price gouging, but it left me with a really bad taste from my trip. Somebody should really do something about it. But, what can be done? Perhaps it would be in the interest of the local tourist industry and even the car rental agencies at the airport to at least make this scam known.

    The prices were indeed marked on the pumps, but they were not visible from the street as at most gas stations. Is that what the new law intended? If so, they are definitely still not in compliance.

    Obviously, I vote to mediate.

  • Hendy

    The FTC enforces a regulation, requiring that service stations must post the price of the grades of gasoline they sell with the price, including diesel. The FTC is the best place to complain if you don’t see a sign, or one with a digit conveniently (and often constantly) missing in the price.

    In lieu of that, caveat emptor.

  • Mark K

    I thought everyone knew not to buy gas at the airport. It is always the highest price gas you will find in the area. Even stations that are just close to the airport, and not on airport property, still charge more.

    My solution to the problem is on the day I will be returning the rental car I fill up as full as possible at a station I see that has a reasonable price and, only when necessary, top off at the airport stations.

    @Little J: Avis charges a flat fee for fuel service of $13.99 for up to 75 miles. With the price of gas going up the way it is, that almost sounds better than the price that station charged. However, both Avis and Hertz had a fuel price of $9.85 per gallon today at the Houston airport if you didn’t bring the car back full. And this is based on miles driven and a very low miles per gallon figure, not the actual amount of gas they will put in the car to fill the tank. I don’t call that a “reasonable” price.

  • Mike Z

    Most cars these days will go 50+ miles before the guage even moves from full. So not stopping 10-20 miles away is just stupid to begin with. You are just giving the rental company and the next renter free fuel.

    I would look and see when the law was set to go into effect and when they visited the station. If even an hour had passed since the law went into effect, then mediate 100% Otherwise, leave it alone.

    In my state they do have gas gouging laws. I am not 100% sure of the text, but stations can only charge a certain markup based on average selling prices. Those types of prices here would be considered gouging. Though I do wonder, is fuel that high there because the city enacted some airport fuel tax that siphons even more money from tourists?

  • http://www.bluegreenresortsblog.com Kirk @ Bluegreen Corporation

    I’m sorry if I have some gas in the car im not stopping or pumping unless I know what the prices are. A simple getting out and going inside to check the prices and they would have been able to decide if they wanted to pump there are not.

  • Jennifer M.

    This morning on Good Morning America, that Suncoast Energies gas station was featured as the most expensive gas station in the country as part of a story about rising gas prices. Price per gallon – $5.89. No mention on whether the price was properly displayed. . .

  • MarkieA

    @ Mike Z

    By driving that extra 10-20 miles and not filling up the tank, you’re also ripping off the next customer. Unless you believe that the rental car agency actually tops off the tank before they rent it. But, what the heck, it’s not your problem.

  • Mark K

    @MarkieA

    If the guage shows full enough to pass the inspection when you turn the car in, it is full. The extra gas I add to overfill a rent car at an affordable station before driving to the airport is just that – extra. And no, the rental company never tops off the tank if it shows full. Why should they? It is full.

    I have rented cars that were just barely full enough to pass the inspection and a couple blocks off the property the car shows less than full. Others I have driven to my destination and back and they still showed full. Either way, I have to fill it up enough to make the rental company happy or I pay an outrageous charge for them to maybe add a few drops to the tank.

    Avis actually requires you to show a receipt from a gas station within a set radius from the airport that shows you added gas or they will charge you to fill the car, even if it is full. When I rent from Avis, I still fill the car full (to the first auto cutoff of the pump) at an affordable station and then top it off within the required radius.

  • Lisa S

    I always check the prices of the gas stations near the airport as I drive away so that I can plan where and when to fill the gas tank of the rental car. And, I have found another gas station if the price went up a lot since I scouted out the gas station.

    It is unfortunate that all gas stations seem to be ripping people off right now–not just tourists–by charging prices based on future oil prices, given that there currently is no shortage of gasoline. It is equally unfortunate that speculators can drive up the price of oil. But, that is the world we live in.

    I think that the OP does have a case if the gas station was out of compliance with the law Chris mentioned, but not just because the gas station charged an outrageously high price.

  • http://www.pineapplejuice.net Keith

    Ordinarily, I would be inclined to vote no. When I rent a car, I usually use Gas Buddy to plan my pre-return fill up – the most reasonable price along my route within a reasonable distance from the airport. That said, though, these stations knew that this price-disclosure law was coming, and if the law went into effect in November and they weren’t in compliance by December, they deserve what they get. Nail ‘em.

  • CM

    Yahoo news has a story about this gas station on the front page now, reporting it as the most expensive in the country: http://news.yahoo.com/video/business-15749628/stretching-your-dollars-at-the-pump-24449769

    I wonder if the prices aren’t posted very clearly at the pump, either, considering how many people seem to be very surprised when the the reporter points it out to them.

  • Kathleen

    I vote to mediate, although I don’t actually think the Barlow’s are going to receive anything from the State of Florida, or the two gas companies involved. However, Chris’s intervention, WILL send a message to these two companies “Travelers from across the U.S. are now aware of your antics, they know what you are doing, and it doesn’t sit well.” Florida should recognize its’ tourist status, and do better.

  • DFW ROAD WARRIOR

    I’m sorry I have no sympathy for the Barlows feeling they were “being cheated as tourists”. If that were the case they would not have rented their car at the airport but rather at their hotel or a rental location close to their hotel. When you rent a car at the airport you are paying additional taxes aimed at the “tourists” for the benefit of the citizens. In many cases you are paying for sports venues. For example when you rent a car at DFW airport you are paying for Jerry Jones new Cowboys football stadium and Mark Cuban’s American Airlines Center. Go to Seattle and you are paying for both the new football and baseball stadium. But if you rent a car at the Marriott just outside the airport those taxes do not apply.
    Gas stations close to airports are known to have higher gas prices than those further away and they do so because they know people will wait till the last minute to gas their rental cars upon return. In fact the only station I have encountered where the gas prices were the same and in some case lower was the Arco station at the Sacramento, CA airport. Just because the prices are not posted from the roadway does not mean you can’t check the price at the pump and then make a choice.
    The Barlows are “tourists” as is any person who travels to a city where they do not reside. There are businesses out there who look to surcharge the “tourist”. When you travel you have to prepare yourself not only for the sites you are going to visit but also where you are going to stay, dine, shop, and buy gas.

  • Christopher Elliott

    @CM nice to know that ABC News reads this site.

  • LarryB

    What I find amazing is that gas stations aren’t required by law to display their prices prominently.

    Generally, I expect to pay a bit more for gas near an airport, but I’ve never heard of a markup like that before. Yet another reason to skip Florida for a place with sensible laws and regulations.

  • Brad

    Sorry DFW, I have to disagree with you. I travel frequently and expect the gas stations near the airport to be 20-30 CENTS higher than others farther away, not TWO DOLLARS per gallon more. I’ve been to Orlando many times and the first time I pulled into the Suncoast station and looked at the prices I pulled right back out and drove a few miles down the main road to get to a station that was within reason.

    Also, your suggestion to go off airport is not always practical, folks are on a schedule and to take a shuttle or cab to another location and back can negate any savings and cost precious time, particularly on business travel.

    In addition, Orlando has a ripoff rental car tax that is nearly $30 and is applied to any rental car that is picked up within 48 hours of landing at the airport. I know that locals stick tourists and business travelers with fees and taxes (without any representation) for many things, but this one is way beyond what most localities do.

  • PauletteB

    I live near Mystic Seaport in Connecticut, and the gas stations in the area used to routinely gouge tourists, with one station (the one closest to the Seaport and most visible from I-95) charging at least $0.75 to $1.00 per gallon over the going rate. There’s a bit more competition now, but all the gas stations in the area still charge significantly more than stations a few miles down the road. Needless to say, no locals patronize the stations in their hometown.

  • Walt N.

    With the unconscionable fees tacked on to rental cars, the airport or the state should simply open a gas station next to the rental car return. That station would then charge the going rate for gas.

  • y_p_w

    I’ve seen some pretty high gas prices in my day, but I usually just bite the bullet around airports. I really don’t think I got gouged quite that much though, and I remember filling up near airports in Maui, Hawaii, Orange County (CA), and Miami. I would also try to fill up 5-10 miles from the airport, where the needle typically still points at full by the time I drop it off.

    I’ve seen some serious prices, but those were often remote locations where transportation costs must have been high. The two gateway communities to Yosemite NP are Mariposa and Oakhurst. Mariposa has a couple of gas stations, and they’re typically 10-20% higher than the Central Valley. Oakhurst and Coarsegold form a larger community where a lot more people live and work. Their gas prices are actually competitive with those in Fresno. The highest prices I’ve seen are at the Kings Canyon Lodge at Giant Sequoia National Monument. When premium was selling for about $3.25/gallon in Fresno a few years back, they were selling premium at $30 for 5 gallons. I knew the transportation costs were ridiculous, but a market about 25 miles away was only about $3.90/gallon, which was a high price but didn’t seem that crazy. They were somewhat unique though, with two antique gravity-fed pumps. The gas was hand pumped into these large glass vials with gallon marks, and then fed by gravity through the hose into the vehicle. I took my chances and drove to Fresno on fumes. There were a few gas stations along the way, and I think I had cell phone coverage to call AAA by the time my low fuel light went on. ;)

  • FL Traveler

    If there was no visable sign — and they were that concerned what the price was — why didn’t they check the pump before fueling? I understand and agree the price different is crazy and the lack of a sign is no doubt an attempt to lure unsuspecting people in. But we as consumers have to be a little more responsible than these folks demonstrated.