Can this trip be saved? Cheated by half a star on my New Orleans hotel

Half a star may not sound like much to the average hotel guest, particularly when there are no nationally-recognized hotel rating standards in the United States. But it means the world to Sandi Tanner, who is planning her 20th wedding anniversary in New Orleans.

Hotwire offered her a pre-paid, nonrefundable room at The Inn on Bourbon, which TripAdvisor gives three stars and AAA rates as three-diamond. Even Hotwire gives it a three-star rating at the time of her booking.

Just one problem: She paid for a 3.5-star room.

Now, before you say, “What’s half a star among friends?” consider what fudging half a star rating can mean to a business. Putting guests in slightly cheaper hotels can translate into millions of dollars of additional revenue per year. It’s like skimming a little off the top. It adds up.

Tanner, though disappointed, at first did what the average hotel guest would do: she went along with it.

“I would take the hotel,” she told me. “But it won’t work with me. The woman I spoke with had a very uncaring attitude even when I explained the situation. On the hotel’s own website they are still offering non-smoking king rooms, but according to her they are out of them. How is this possible?”

A downgraded hotel, forced to stay in a smoking room for her 20th anniversary. There’s got to be a better way, right?

Hotwire has fixed a similar problem in the past, when asked to reconcile a half-star difference. She though the online agency would see things her way, too.

So Tanner sent a brief, concise email to Hotwire, asking it to reconsider its hotel selection. Just as a reminder, Hotwire is a so-called “opaque” site — you choose the star rating, location and price, and it picks the property. All rooms are non-refundable. Tanner suggested they send her to a higher-rated hotel that was offering rooms for less than the one she’d paid — a “win-win” in anyone’s book.

Hotwire didn’t agree.

Some hotel brands, like the Ramada, feature properties in multiple star-rating categories because the rating is not based on the chain’s overall value, but rather on each individual hotel. Not all Ramada properties can fall into the same star-rating category, as each property has its own unique features and services.

This particular Ramada, in this location, was reviewed by our hotel specialists on February 12, 2011, and the 3.5-Star rating was determined to be an accurate reflection of the quality of this establishment.

Room type, including smoking preference and number/size of beds, is assigned by the hotel based on their availability at the time of your check-in, and not guaranteed by Hotwire. Since we carry our hotel partners’ unsold inventory, we cannot guarantee that they will have your specifically desired room type available when you check in.

In other words, a deal’s a deal.

I understand Hotwire’s perspective. It insists the 3 1/2-star rating for the Inn is correct, although the form letter it sent to Tanner doesn’t really address the problem she had. What’s more, it’s policies about room type are disclosed on its own site, although few guests bother to review the fine print before they make a purchase.

Plus, what’s half a star, really? Here’s the difference between a 3 1/2-star and a 3-star hotel on Hotwire. It appears to be relatively minor.

At the same time, I get where Tanner is coming from. She though she would get a room at a Hilton or Embassy Suites, not at a Ramada Inn. Hotwire’s excuse for not meeting her expectations is disappointing; the Inn staff’s attitude isn’t helping.

For a special occasion like an anniversary, when everything has to be just so, I wouldn’t roll the dice on an opaque website. I think Tanner might have done just as well by reserving her room directly with the hotel she wanted or through a travel agent.

Do you think Tanner should live with her decision, enduring a smoking room in a hotel she didn’t want? Or should Hotwire refund her room and make a reservation in a hotel that both parties agree is a 3 1/2-star property?

Should I mediate this case? It was a close vote, but the “nos” have it.

(Photo: Master Ma q/Flickr Creative Commons)

  • Roxie

    What is the non-smoking is a health thing? I have asthma attacks when in a room with any strong smell – including smoking. I understand that there is little difference between 3.0 and 3.5 stars in a hotel, but there is a BIG difference between a smoking and non smoking room.

    I would take a two star non smoking room over a 4 star smoking room. Honestly. Get up to a 5 star hotel, and I doubt a 5 star hotel would even let a problem like this to continue without being taken care of. That aside, I’d sleep in the hallway of a 5 star room before I’d sleep in a smoking room. ;)

  • flutiefan

    based on your clarifications, Chris, i am glad i went with my first instinct and voted NO to mediation. she took a risk, gambled, and lost.

  • Wrona

    Thanks for the clarification Chris. I don’t think this is a case you should mediate. I think this is a prime example of where you shouldn’t book through an opaque site, and should be left as an example to others. If you have specific room requirements (non-smoking, two double beds instead of a king, etc), you should not be booking through an opaque site. Hotwire and Priceline don’t hide the fact that they can’t guarantee room type.

    Even if you base it solely on the star issue, then I think the OP is out of luck. Just because most Ramada’s might be 3 stars doesn’t mean that that the one that is better situated, better operated, etc shouldn’t be rated a 3.5 star. Consider the reverse, if there was a Ramada that was an absolute dump, poorly run, etc, a consumer would be quite upset if it was sold as a 3 star but only deserved a 2 star at best.

    I’m not a huge fan of Hotwire or Priceline but if you are going to book through them at least understand what you are buying and the limitations. If you can’t handle those limitations, then book somewhere else. Blame Hotwire when they make a mistake, not because you don’t like the restrictions they clearly impose.

  • Aaron

    I always see Hotwire as a roll of the dice. Sometimes you win, sometimes you lose. I use Hotwire or Priceline if I need a place to stay for one night on short notice, but for something important, I book myself. If it were my 20th anniversary, I wouldn’t trust it to Hotwire.

  • Heather

    Ah ok well if the inn is 3.5 or higher and not the overall chain, I don’t see an issue for the most part with that. My question is was she promised a non-smoking room? If she was booked as one through hotwire then hotwire or the inn owe her a non-smoking room. That said, I paid extra when my boyfriend and I went on a trip just so I wouldn’t end up in her situation and it wasn’t even for an anniversary. Next time book direct.

  • Aaron

    I should add that every time I book a room with Hotwire or Priceline, I always call the property IMMEDIATELY and verify the room and (pleasantly as I can) request a non-smoking room. I have never had a problem. I don’t like staying in smoking rooms, but in their defense, HW and PL are very up front about this – non-smoking is not guaranteed.

  • Chris in NC

    @ Chris Elliott
    If the smoking issue is the real problem, then why mediate with Hotwire? As previously posted, what the OP should do is to contact the GM and see if they can be guaranteed a “non-smoking room” even if they have to pay an additional cost. If this is acceptable to both parties, it is certainly a fair solution.

    While some Ramada’s are dumps, some are pretty nice. Likewise, staying at a 3 1/2 star chain does not guarantee that an individual property in the chain isn’t a dump. I trust John Frenaye’s opinion that this is nicer than the typical Ramada.

    Call me cold hearted, but the OP should get a refund from Hotwire. If Hotwire wants to offer a goodwill gesture, allow her to move up to a 4 star hotel, BUT she should pay the difference.

  • Vivi

    I agree with all who posted that for special occasions don’t use Hotwire or similar sites. But I voted to mediate because of the non-smoking room issue. I believe the customer could have and would have lived without the half-star but being in a smoking room, if you are a non-smoker, for more than one night is unacceptable. It would be the same for a smoker booking a smoking room only to find out they have a non-smoking room.

    This is a Hotwire issue and if they are unable to guarantee this one issue, which for many is a health issue, they should clearly and boldly state they can’t guarantee it before accepting the reservation.

    Additionally, Hotwire has resolved this type of situation before thereby setting a precedent for future resolutions of this nature.

  • Mike Z

    I originally voted to mediate, but after the last update posted in the comments I would like to amend that to a no.

    This individual property appears to be a 3.5 star property while the chain as a whole has a less favorable rating.

    The real issue here after all is the non smoking room. I am about 100% positive that if the OP sends a very nice letter (through USPS, not some e-mail form) to the GM of the hotel that they are coming for their 20th wedding anniversary and the importance of a non smoking room, that the hotel GM would make sure that is what they get.

    Even evil CS people do like to see happy endings once in a while and I think a nice handwritten letter explaining the situation would go very far in obtaining something fairly simple.

  • bodega

    First off, when you book on a third party website, you are not going into the hotels inventory, but the inventory that the hotel is allowed to sell. Was the savings that great to deal with an opaque website for this special occassion and the hassles she made herself go through? Hotwire very clearly states their star rating. It doesn’t follow a chain rating. They don’t guaranteed smoking or nonsmoking rooms. Then why complain when you don’t either read what the policies are or think you can go around them when you don’t get what you want?

    No mediation is needed on this at all. She need to learn to read the rules, terms and conditions BEFORE making a reservation.

  • Brad

    I’ve been burned more than once by Hotwire, and just gritted my teeth and took what I got.
    If you had ever booked with them before you should realize the rooms assigned are up to the hotel.
    Should have gone to kayak or sidestep if a particular room was required.

    No mention of how much was saved on the room either, if the hotel is already taking a loss, why would they quantify that loss.

  • http://www.foxstudio.biz Reynard

    Why anyone would book through an “opaque” site for something as important as a wedding anniversary is beyond me, especially if the customer has specific requirements like a non-smoking room. Hard to summon much sympathy on this one.

  • Nikki

    This kind of situation is exactly why I don’t recommend going through opaque sites. You’re paying to be at THEIR mercy; why on earth would you allow your money to be dictated by someone else? If you’re an opaque-site regular and you know how to navigate those sites and make sure you follow up, then my hat’s off to you – go do your thing. :)

    I’m a GM for two different hotels here in town, both that are on the opaque sites. If a guest called and told me they booked with them, but they require, say, a non-smoking room because of allergies and sensitivities, I would accommodate them just because we’re in the business of service and it’s what we do. But if it’s the day of check-in, and we’re close to sold out, there’s not a lot I can ask my staff to do – especially if the reservation came through our system as a smoking room, and I have no non-smoking rooms to move them to.

    The majority of the GMs and front office managers out there are willing to help you (the guest), but they cannot do anything for you if they don’t know what is happening. I voted no on this poll because the opaque sites are usually pretty clear on what’s what when the reservation is booked. Someone, however, mentioned calling a manager, and I agree with that. We’re at your service, folks… it’s what we do. :)

    That said – please, please, be your own advocate. Don’t do just SOME research – do a heck of a LOT of it. Ask questions, and if you don’t get the answers that you understand, ask someone else and keep doing so till you get the answer you’re looking for. (Not the one you want to hear, people…) For those of you that said the OP should have never gone through a third-party booking site, please be easy on her. We can sit here and quote “should-haves and should not haves” till the cows come home, but the fact of the matter is that a lot of these booking sites advertise like crazy in the media, and they rely on the average Joe (or Jill) that is not familiar with their ways. it’s those of us that have been traveling, or have been working in the industry long enough, to know what chowderheads those companies can be.

    Not only that – but you know – we were all newbies once. We know how humiliating it is to have our mistake pointed out to us not once, but multiple times.

  • Dave D

    Why use an opaque site to book such an important vacation? Use a site that allows direct comparisons (Kayak, Hotels, etc.) THEN book directly with the hotel.

    Seriously, someone needs to compose an “Ode to the Opaques”.

  • Tanya

    I learned the hard way to not book hotel rooms (especially when you have special needs/ or need specific accomodations) through an opaque site or really, any third party. For my graduation, I booked my family rooms at a supposedly all suite hotel and it let me select non smoking as a criteria (I have asthma, dad was a former smoker, and my 83 year old grandma was coming), when I showed up (early in the day) I was told there were no non smoking rooms left for people who booked through a third party and that the all suite hotel, actually was not one and both rooms they were going to give us only had a single king bed. Now, the issue was resolved as soon as I asked for a manager and requested for them to either ‘walk’ us to acceptable accomodations (we needed 3 beds at a minimum) or to give us the rooms. They gave us the right rooms then. However, since then, I learned, I don’t book on third party/opaque sites, I don’t care what the deal is, it seems the hotels treat the people who book through them better.
    I am not sure what the OP was thinking IF the non-smoking room was critical to her. And for such an important event. Plus, I think you have to look at the booking site’s ratings, what I may consider a 2 star, the opaque site may consider a 3 star. I voted no, as I think the OP had buyers remorse.

  • Brooklyn

    I’m sorry that Chris has decided not to mediate this one, but let’s focus on what the OP can do on her own. It’s hard to believe that ALL the non-smoking rooms are taken; it sounds to me as if the desk staff is annoyed that she got such a good deal on Hotwire and is trying to get back at her. It really is a health issue and she probably won’t be able to use the room at all. Could she sell the reservation on E-Bay and start over? Could she ask her doctor to contact the hotel management and explain the consequences of a smoking room (i.e., that she might have to be taken to the emergency room and would then sue the hotel)? Does the New Orleans media have some kind of ombudsman who would investigate and then do an article on it? Or perhaps she could make a lot of noise on Facebook and Twitter and give both Hotwire and the Ramada bad publicity. In the worst case scenario, she should hang onto the e-mails in which the Ramada said there were no non-smoking rooms free that night, then sue the Ramada in small-claims court. That should make it possible to subpoena the hotel’s records on how many smoking and non-smoking rooms it has and what the reservation situation was on the date of her request. If the hotel was being less than honest, that might be enough and she might never have to travel back to New Orleans to appear in court. Does anyone have other ideas? At this point, it doesn’t matter that she shouldn’t have used Hotwire for the reservation; the question now is how she can minimize the consequences of her error in the absence of help from Chris.

  • Arizona Road Warrior

    @ Vivi – “But I voted to mediate because of the non-smoking room issue.”
    - – - — – - –
    It is cleary stated on the Hotwire website that room types are NOT guaranteed.

    If you need a guarantee of a non-smoking room then book your hotel room through a means that can guarantee a non-smoking room.

    It is very clear on Hotwire and Priceline that room types (non-smoking and smoking; 2 beds instead of a king; etc.) are NOT guaranteed. In other words, it is a gamble.

    When you do a hotel search on Hotwire, if the hotel is smoke-free then there is a non-smoking symbol will appear by the hotel property. If you want a guarantee of a non-smoking room on Hotwire then select a smoke-free hotel property among the hotel properties from your search. Other wise, Hotwire clearly states that there is no guarantee of room type.

  • http://www.overlander.tv Mark

    I have a question for you Chris. Your homepage has a pagerank of 4 on your homepage. Do you think links to other sites work in increasing pagerank? And should links to other sites appear in a blogroll ( and thus on every page of a site) or on a separate links page? I’ve been told a blogroll is not given as high ranking by google as a separate links page?

  • bodega

    Brooklyn@you don’t seem to understand how third party sites work, nor have you read the rules and star rating on Hotwire’s site. Your suggestion is as ridiculous as this woman was for booking a special occasion getaway on an opaque website.

  • sally

    I’d mediate on the smoking room issue AND the fact that their website is still offering the kingsized non-smoking room she wanted, even though they admit that they can’t supply it. That is wrong, don’t you think? Smoke allergy is no vacation.

  • larry b

    Brooklyn,,,,Really now, are you serious?????????????

  • Fred Munroe

    Discounted inventory, is discounted for a reason. If one wishes to get the best options for their needs, they have to stop dealing with vendors (like Hotwire) who specialize in “price always over service and quality”.

    I agree with the poster who stated that there should be a choice in your polling called “education the OP”. But better yet, how about a polling choice of “call a real travel agent next time.”

  • Brooklyn

    @Bodega and Larry B: Yes, I know about third-party sites and I agree that she shouldn’t have used Hotwire – personally, I use it only for car rentals at Albuquerque Sunport. But if you reread my post, I wasn’t saying the OP was right; I was looking at ways that she might be able to salvage her vacation. As usual, many of you just love to see someone suffer because of a mistake that YOU wouldn’t have made. I simply don’t see it that way. There’s no question that Hotwire is at fault, not on the smoking issue but because they cheated on the star value of the room. Therefore, they should be willing to make it up to her; they could do this by cancelling the entire reservation or, as she suggests, by downgrading her to a lesser room with the no-smoking option she needs. They’ve refused to do either of these things. Ramada, on the other hand, is being unhelpful in a situation where the customer’s health is at stake. If she wants to recoup her money, she needs to be practical and push on one of the weak links; Ramada if they lied about the availability of a non-smoking room, or Hotwire because it lied on the half-star issue. I’ve suggested a number of ways in which she might induce them to fix the problem or, if she could sell the room on E-Bay, get her money back and reserve a non-smoking room at a different hotel. I hope she’ll try one or more of them and let Chris know how it works out.

  • bodega

    Sally@I have stated twice that third party websites don’t go into the hotel’s main website inventory. They sell from their own bit of inventory provided by their contract with the hotel. Also, read Hotwire’s terms and conditions policy. A nonsmoking room is a request. A request isn’t a guarantee. There is a big difference between the two! This woman is asking for assistance on something that she doesn’t deserve. Maybe she will learn a leasson for future trips!

  • Nikki

    OK… Brooklyn is what most of us in the industry call “the guest from hell”. Bad publicity? Twitter? Selling that res on eBay? *smh*

    If you don’t give the hotel staff a chance to fix whatever is wrong – you’re as bad as they are. Suing the hotel? Are you serious? The opaque sites’ policies may not be very clear, but they’re clear enough that they could probably even get away with murder if necessary (an exaggeration, sure, but…).

    Once you have booked that reservation on any site, whether it’s a standard travel site or an opaque one, it is YOUR responsibility to make the connection to the property itself, to confirm that reservation and to get all the information you need to make your stay a good one. Why should you leave your money to chance in someone else’s hands? Call the hotel or airline or whatever you booked on an opaque site, and see what can be done to make it easier for you.

    Here’s hoping the OP doesn’t take that ridiculous suggestion of attempting bad publicity and such for the Ramada. If you think the critics were harsh here in the comments about booking such an important event through a cheapie website, just wait till the general public gets wind of something like that…

  • Ed

    Why would someone use an opaque site for something as important as a 20th anniversary? That doesn’t make sense to me…

  • Michael K

    Has anyone siding with the hotel read the terms on Hotwire’s website?

    Under #4:
    “All reservations are booked for stays in non-smoking rooms (subject to availability).”

    This is consistent with my own experiences. I’ve made opaque hotel reservations on Hotwire at least 20 times, and I have always gotten a non-smoking room (without needing to ask).

    If the OP has proof that the hotel has non-smoking standard rooms available (e.g. on their website) and is withholding these from her, then I believe the hotel is not honoring their obligations with Hotwire.

  • bodega

    Michael@also from Hotwire’s website:
    We can only guarantee a non-smoking room if the hotel shows a “smoke free” amenity icon in the details and search results. To see what the “smoke free” icon looks like, view our Amenities Guide.

    If the property is not “smoke free,” you can call the hotel after booking to request a non-smoking room. The hotel may or may not be able to accommodate the request.

  • Eric

    I didn’t see this in time to vote. I’d have voted “YES”. Not because of the 1/2 star rating difference, but because of the issue of the smoking room. Imagine ordering a memory card from Amazon. They ship you a smaller card because that’s all they have and expect you to be happy with it. That’s the way I see this.

  • Michael K

    @bodega: Your quote (taken from the Help Center Q & A section, not the formal rules & restrictions) is relevant only if the hotel doesn’t have non-smoking rooms available.

    Based on the “Hotwire Travel Products Rules and Restrictions”, “All reservations are booked for stays in non-smoking rooms (subject to availability).”

    Just about every time I’ve arrived to check in to a hotel with an opaque Hotwire reservation, the front desk agent would say, “We have you down for a non-smoking room, is that okay?”

    I believe the only legitimate grounds the hotel would have to deny the guest a non-smoking room would be that none is available (at least none within the applicable room category). And based on the information in the article, that isn’t the case.

  • larry

    Brooklyn “As usual, many of you just love to see someone suffer because of a mistake that YOU would not have made”, That is a BIG assumption. REALLY BIG.
    “There is no question that Hotwire is at fault,,,because they cheated her on the star value of the room”
    NO THEY DID NOT. Go back and read the article and every post and you will see that the 3.5 star rating on Hotwire was in place when she made the booking.
    “Ramada on the other hand is being unhelpful when the customers health is at stake”
    NO IT IS NOT. She did not call Ramada, she called the “Inn on Bourbon”, which is a Ramada flagged property, and is not owned by Ramada. She spoke to one lady and then this whole thing escalates. If by luck, she got a different employee on the phone, this article may have never appeared. Never mind the fact that the general manager is not even in the loop, and the probability that the employee she spoke with could have been having a really bad day.
    Kikki, Agree with you except one thing. Could you please change the “guest from hell” to “customer from hell”. After owning 3 very successful businesses, my experience is that 2% of the customers cause about 98% of the stress.

  • Nikki

    lol Larry – consider it done. :D

  • Storminone

    WOW!!! Just found your website for the first time. Reading all of these comments makes me wonder how many of them are written by shills for Hotwire.

    As a salesman that travels five-days a week, every week, my experience is that Hotwire consistently misrepresents properties. It seems to me that Hotwire uses a very flexible sliding-scale that is based more on filling rooms and getting paid their cut of the pie.

    As much as I hate the Priceline bidding process, their hotel assessments seem way more accurate. I would certainly much prefer to use non-opaque sites, but since I have to pay for my own hotels, I have to buy the absolute best deals that I can find. If someone can tell me of non-opaque sites that will give me comparable deals, I would appreciate that greatly. My own searches have not turned-up any sites that are, and my own research shows that NONE of the non-opaque sites mentioned in these posts, come even close.

    The two times that I’ve actually called Hotwire to complain, I found them to be the rudest, most sarcastic and obviously uncaring folks I’ve ever had the displeasure of talking to. They obviously are well trained in the art of saying NO, and in as many possible ways as there are of saying it. I spent 10 minutes on the phone with one of their CS reps, who the entire time, told me that he couldn’t do anything for me, and then actually tried to end the call by asking if there was – anything else he could help me with. I had to explain to him twice that in order to help with anything else, he would have had to help me with something first. Something that he hadn’t yet done, and in fact, refused to do.