Can this trip be saved? Airline promises to refund hotel room, then reneges

Back in October, Sandy Antiporda and her husband flew from San Francisco to Venice on Delta Air Lines. But a scheduled stopover in New York became a layover when their plane had engine trouble.

A Delta representative assured the Antipordas their vacation would be saved. The airline paid for a hotel at JFK and upgraded the couple to business class on their transatlantic flight. It also verbally promised to reimburse them for one night of their nonrefundable room in Venice, which was an extraordinarily generous offer.

But the check never arrived.

“When I sent a letter to Delta requesting reimbursement, I never heard from them,” says Antiporda. “Then I sent an email. They gave us each $200 travel vouchers, and finally they gave me an additional $148 travel voucher all of which expire in one year. We never wanted any travel vouchers. We just wanted to be reimbursed for our hotel in Venice, which was about $148.”

Can this trip be saved?

Let’s have a look at Delta’s contractual obligations to the couple during the delay. It’s outlined under the airline’s International Conditions of Carriage, the legal agreement between them and the carrier. Rule 95 says the airline owed them meal and hotel vouchers, which it offered, but makes no mention of business-class upgrades. That appears to be a bonus.

The $200 travel voucher and the $148 travel voucher are also extras.

Delta’s contract is mum on the subject of reimbursing passengers for lost vacation days, too. The email reply from Delta seems to reiterate that the airline has no contractual obligation to the Antipordas to cover their Venice hotel.

If there was any type of exception being made to our policy of only paying expenses at the customer’s current location, then it should have been documented in the record by a supervisor with an authorization.

However, while we will pay for hotel, meals, and those types of expenses while the customer has to stay overnight, we do not pay for other expenses at the destination.

So according to Antiporda, a Delta representative promised her a check for $148, but Delta has no record of making such an offer. In retrospect, maybe she could have asked for the offer in writing, or at least requested that the representative make a notation in the system that the offer was being made.

I think Delta has already gone a long way to compensate this couple, including offering them a business-class upgrade — the value of which far exceeded their $148 hotel — and travel vouchers. It would have been cheaper for Delta to just cut the couple a check for $148 and forget the upgraded seats and vouchers.

Still, a promise is a promise. If someone said they’d cover their room in Venice, then they should do it. Right?

Stories like this are a reminder that when any company goes “off the menu” with an offer, you need to make sure you get it in writing, or at least record the name and phone number of the representative who made the offer. Otherwise, it could end up being your word against theirs.

I’m conflicted about this one. I think Delta has tried to make things right with the Antipordas, although maybe it didn’t do all the right things.

What do you think? Should I mediate this case?

Survey says: no.

  • SirWired

    This is a toughie… I think the Delta rep made a promise it turned out Delta couldn’t keep, namely, prying a check out of the accounting dept. Yes, the Delta rep should not have promised something out of his/her authority, but $548 in vouchers and a business class upgrade I would have accepted as perfectly reasonable compensation. In return for missing out on $148 in lost hotel cost (and a lost day of vacation), they’ve received something like $1500-ish in free Delta product (and their layover costs.)

    As you pointed out, all they were really owed was their layover costs; in the end, they’ve really gone above and beyond here, with perhaps some personnel retraining required.

  • Teresa

    This is another case where the issue of cash versus credit (vouchers) seems to be important.

    The OP lost the value of the night at the hotel in Venice that they had paid for, but did get a night of hotel accommodations in New York in return. Granted, that’s not what they had wanted and purchased. The airline seems to have recognized this and made some conciliatory gestures (business class, vouchers, etc.)

    But I think this case wouldn’t have wound up taking Chris’s and Delta’s time if Delta had made a gesture which actually had some cash value. You can’t sell a business class upgrade. Many people don’t personally place much value on sitting up front. You can’t use a voucher if you don’t plan to fly the airline again. Basically, all of Delta’s gestures were worthless to the OP. But everyone values cash — which Delta didn’t want to cough up.

  • Thomas

    NO, NO, NO!!!!!!!! Is she crazy? I think Delta went over the top on this one in so far as compensation. The upgrade to Business, depending on her fare basis, could be as much as $5000. per ticket, considering a one way is over $5800. Maybe the op would have been happier sitting in coach with her check for $148!

  • Katie

    Delta shouldn’t have promised something they couldn’t deliver. But I do think that they’ve done enough. They paid for the night in New York, and they gave a free upgrade. Buying business-class tickets from New York to Venice costs a lot more than a $150 night at a hotel.

    There’s also the vouchers, but those are usually worthless. If Delta had promised a cash refund and ONLY given vouchers, then yes, I’d vote for mediation. But in this case, I think Delta has actually done enough for once.

  • Flyer

    While I agree that what DL has done so far.. Upgrade to C from Y and the travel credits FAR exceeds the $148… I do think that IF that was in fact what was promised, then that’s what should be delivered.. What I am aware of is, as you pointed out, we are only hearing ONE side of the story and so far no evidence of this ‘promise’ exists.. Could it be a misunderstanding? Sure it could.. Could DL just be fobbing them off? Sure they could.. Could the authors be overstating what really happened? Sure they could..
    In the end, I do agree with Chris on this, I do think that there needs to be some record of who said what and to whom..

    What makes me pause, is the reality that DL has already ‘compensated’ them by virtue of the Y to C upgrade and travel credits that perhaps THIS was meant to be in LEIU of the $148 check.. again, without proof of who said what to whom, there’s no way to know..

  • Monica

    While I think a company should honor what they promised, I think she was more than compensated with what she was given. She lost a day in Venice, but Delta paid for the same night in NY. Not really a “wash”, but it was something. The upgrade to business class for a 10+ hour flight was a huge bonus. That alone far surpasses the $148 they were asking for. And on top of that, they got another $548 in vouchers for future flights (article said $200 each, then the $148 later). Bottom line is that they were more than compensated. If it were me, I’d let this one go.

  • OTC

    This woman sounds like a nag, sure they lost a night in Venice, but Delta went so far and beyond what they had to that I think they should be commended.

    An upgrade on an international flight for non-elite flyers is a remarkable and valuable gesture, one worth thousands of dollars or tens of thousands of frequent flyer miles, that I think more than makes up for the lost night in Venice.

    I get the impression that the poor rep at tha airport was just saying things to keep them quiet, as most people would not continue to harrass them once they got the hotel in NYC and the upgrade.

  • larry

    Thomas, You nailed it!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

  • http://www.advicegoddess.com Amy Alkon

    I hereby offer to volunteer a day of my vacation to have myself and my boyfriend upgraded to business class to Europe. Yoohoo, Delta?!

    I won’t even take the travel vouchers! (But, will you please let the flight attendant know I will have another glass of champagne.)

  • http://www.thetravelinggiraffe.com Crissy

    While I do agree that a deal is a deal. In this case the OP does not have any proof that they were told they would be given the reimbursement. If not for that offer I think most people would agree that $548 in vouchers and an upgrade to business class is more then acceptable compensation. So while it’s not cash, without proof I think the OP was compensated fairly.

  • Mike Z

    The business class upgrade has nothing to do with any compensation for the missed day and lost hotel monies. The $500+ in vouchers does as long as you can use them all on one ticket. If you have to use each voucher seperate, then it is a crappy deal. (plus redemption fees on vouchers and having to use them on published fares and not the ones normally listed on their website makes the vouchers about worthless) I’d suggest to delta they take back $500 in vouchers and just cut the check for $150.

  • Christine

    I agree with Mike Z, Delta should have cut them a cheque for $150 to cover the night in Venice, and in exchange taken back the $500 in vouchers and let them sit in the back.
    I was in the airline industry for almost 30 years, and to be frank. Delta went above and beyond and the passengers have been more than compensated. Yes, to lose a night is Venice is indeed unfortunate, however, they arrived safely.
    Lets not get overly greedy

  • Sandsgrandmother

    While I believe that Delta believes they did the correct thing of compensation for missed day and lost of hotel monies, all of this has nothing to do with the promise that Delta’s employee made to the couple.
    Delta represents the employee and the employee represents Delta in whatever is said and/or written.
    Delta needs a computer program written so that the employee can use it to type in the notes and a printed copy is made on the spot of the agreement of what was promised between the employee / Delta and the customer. That way you do not have worry about intered notes being lost and the customer has a written/ printed agreement.

  • Phil

    If the airline paid for their first night even though they were in New York then I would say they are even, they may not have stayed in the hotel in Venice which they paid for but Delta took care of the hotel in New York, so why should Delta refund their first night in Venice. Delta has certainly done enough. Greed, greed, greed, ah yes, but then we are speaking about Americans.

  • BillC

    I don’t think that the OP was greedy. While Delta did provide more than adequate compensation they did not provide what they had promised. Can travel vouchers be sold? If not, they are not very useful unless you are planning to take a trip.

    Another clear case of get everything in writing when there is a problem.

  • Mike in NC

    OP is trying to get more than she deserves. Delta upgraded her, and by my count gave her $548 in vouchers.

    You won sweetheart. Now shut up and take it before someone at Delta realizes it and tries to take it away.

  • Karen P

    I think you should mediate. Yes Delta paid for the hotel in NYC but it’s not like they were at some plush place in Manhattan, they were at an airport hotel. I’ve stayed (at Delta’s expense so plane issues) at a Paris airport hotel and it was NOT nice. The upgrade was a nice gesture but it was a nice gesture only. I’ve been upgraded unexpectedly and it was nice but it’s not something I’d pay for.

    The vouchers are another nice gesture but they are NOT cash and they are NOT what Delta promised. Maybe the couple could send back the vouchers in exchange for the $148 in cash. I know I would. When I vow not to fly an airline again vouchers are worthless, there’s no point in my keeping them. A couple can’t fly anywhere totally paid for $548 (the worth of all the vouchers) and I’m guessing they don’t want to give Delta any more money.

  • Arizona Road Warrior

    @ Teresa – “Many people don’t personally place much value on sitting up front.”
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    I don’t know if you have flown Business Class (BC) or First Class (FC) for a Transatlantic or Transpacific flight but I must disagree. There is a world of difference between sitting in coach and BC\FC.

    Sleep: It is much easier to take a nap in a flat-bed seat in BC\FC than a coach that reclines a few inches.

    Meals: Typically, you will have two or three choices for your meal in BC\FC.

    Space: Your seat in BC\FC will have much more space (pitch, seat width) than a seat in coach.

    IFE: Back in 2007, I was on two different airlines for some international flights. There were no individual IFE in coach so every passenger had to watch the same movie, etc. FC\BC had thier own IFE with movies, tv shows, games, etc.

    The ratio of FAs to passengers is smaller in FC and BC; therefore, the service level is higher.

    FC and BC has their own restrooms; therefore, there are less people using them.

    In some countries, FC\BC passengers have their own line in customs.

    For me, when I fly FC (domestic) and FC\BC (international), I arrive fresh at my destination; whereas, when I fly coach, I don’t. I put a value on being ready to go at my destination.

  • Aaron

    The compensation was nice, but it wasn’t what the couple asked for. I’d say they should return the vouchers to Delta and Delta should cut a check as they promised.

    Aaron

  • Karen P

    @ Bill C no, travel vouchers cannot be sold or traded. They can only be used by the person who received them or given to someone. As you said, they are useless unless you are planning a trip. For all any of us know the couple has to save up for trips and can’t just go on another one within a year.

  • MeanMeosh

    Seems to me they were compensated adequately. BUT – a promise is a promise, and if they truly were promised $148 cash for the missed night in Venice, Delta should pay up. It may be, however, that this was a complicated misunderstanding. Somehow, I suspect the agent may have said something like “I’ll do what I can to get you a refund for your missed night”, but in the heat of the moment (understandably, I might add), this got translated as “I’ll get you a refund”. Tough call on this one; the trouble is, if you mediate, I doubt you’ll get a different outcome with nothing documented in writing, especially since Delta’s compensation was rather generous to begin with.

  • Powergirl

    @ Teresa – with all due respect, I think most people do place a lot of value on being upgraded, especially on a long distance trip.

    Is it possible that there was some miscommunications regarding how the OP was to be compensated i.e. “we’ll take care of it” or “we’ll compensate you for that lost night”? As a petite person, I don’t mind being in coach for a short flight – 2 hours or less. But being in first/business class is invaluable on a transatlantic flight. There is no way to get any sleep in coach with everyone packed in like sardines. In business at least there’s some room to move around and you can get some sleep so that when you arrive, you don’t need to head straight to your room to recover.

    Personally I would have been happy with the upgrade. Anything above that is gravy. The compensation for the night at JFK is expected because they wouldn’t have incurred those expenses but for Delta’s delay.

  • Karen P

    @ Arizona Road Warrior, while everything you say is true about Business Class and First Class being a world different than Economy for some folks it doesn’t mean that much. It doesn’t to me and maybe it doesn’t to the couple involved. I would never pay to sit up there and if I was offered those seats in exchange for $150 in cash for a hotel room I’d turn it down. I’m not fussed with movies, I’m usually a pop a couple allergy pills and off to sleep I go long haul flier.

    Although honestly the upgrade has nothing to do with the case at hand. The upgrade was not given instead of the $150, the upgrade was given to the couple as well as a promise of $150. The vouchers, the upgrade, the hotel at the airport in NYC are all moot points, the couple is owed what was promised.

  • Arizona Road Warrior

    $ 148 versus $ 548 in vouchers and an upgrade to business class (a value of $ 2,500…I took the difference between the lowest coach ticket and business class for a ticket in March 2011 and divided in half). $ 548 in vouchers can buy one to two seats in coach for a domestic flight. I won’t be complaining if I was the OP…to me, this is a good deal.

    @ Karen P – “A couple can’t fly anywhere totally paid for $548″
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    I disagree. The fare (coach) to fly SFO to LAS is $ 233 (total fare) per passenger (leaving 2/22 and returning 2/25). The fare to SEA is $ 185 per passenger; to LAX is $ 175; to PHX is $ 265; to DFW is $ 190; to JFK is $ 280 (which will require them to pay $ 12 out of their pocket). There are places that the OP can fly together as a couple for $ 548 or less.

    @ Karen P – “The vouchers are another nice gesture but they are NOT cash and they are NOT what Delta promised.”
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    It wasn’t in writing. What they should have done is to ask the Delta agent to put it in their PNR so that there is a written record of the offer. Also, I carry a digital recorder with me. When I have encountered a travel issue where the travel provider can’t put the resolution\compensation in writing, I will pull out my recorder, ask for their permission to record their offer, etc. If a person is not going to put the resolution\compensation\offer\etc in writing nor want to have it recorded, they are NOT serious.

  • Arizona Road Warrior

    @ Sandsgrandmother – “Delta needs a computer program written so that the employee can use it to type in the notes and a printed copy is made on the spot of the agreement of what was promised between the employee / Delta and the customer.”
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    A Delta employee can enter the notes in the PNR of the traveler today.

  • Arizona Road Warrior

    @ Karen P – “Yes Delta paid for the hotel in NYC but it’s not like they were at some plush place in Manhattan, they were at an airport hotel.”
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    You are probably right but was their room ($ 148) in Venice a plush hotel? I did a quick search on Orbitz for 5-star hotels in Venice in March 2011 and the prices ranged from $ 245 to $ 580 a night (63% of the prices were over $ 500).

    How about travel insurance? If they had travel insurance, the $ 148 would have been paid.

  • Joe Farrell

    I voted no because they were put up for a night in NYC. End of story. They needed a place to stay and they got a place to stay. even if it was at one of those skanky hotels right by JFK, even so. why be reimbursed for a night of a hotel in Venice – they got a night in NY in exchange for it. The are entitled to the difference between the price of the room @ JFK and $148. It matters not that they were not in Venice – whats that worth? Lost of a night of vacay – and broken airplanes happen. Its part of the risk of flying.

  • Lisa S

    I think Delta did everything right until it failed to provide the cash compensation for the lost night in Venice. Personally, I think the upgrade covered the lost vacation day and the hotel and meals should have been provided because the airline did not get the couple to the destination on time as promised. Lost vacation costs should be covered, too, as were promised. Vouchers are useless if you are not planning on going on another trip in less than 12 months, which could very easily the case.

    Frontline just did a piece on the shoddy maintenance that is done by the companies to which many of the airlines outsource. Maintenance is not an act of God, but rather a preventable failure in most cases. Of course, if you have companies that claim to have serviced the plane but actually haven’t, well then you are just asking for trouble, and are going to cause a lot of people to miss out on part of their vacation–which as we have seen above can be costly. I think if airlines were required to adequately compensate all passengers for when maintenance issues arise, such issues would arise less often. Airlines need to start paying huge fines for delays caused by maintenance issues so that they stop happening. Having sat on the tarmac for two hours back in November because of a maintenance issue that was known BEFORE they loaded us up on the plane, I believe that airlines need to be held more accountable not less.

  • JRS

    There is no proof of the “promise” — in writing or on a recording — so you can’t actually determine the “truth” about the OP’s claim.

    Scenario: At the service counter the OP is bemoaning the lost night in Venice. The Delta representative may have said “I promise Delta will reimburse you” or “I can see if Delta will reimburse you.” The first is, indeed, a promise. The second is a case of “wishful listening.”

  • Karen P

    @ Arizona Road Warrior – I don’t see it mattering if their hotel in Venice was a plush hotel or not, Venice was their destination, not Queens, New York. If I book a crappy hotel in Mexico but instead am put in a hotel in Northeast Philly (by the airport) I gotta say, I’d rather be in Mexico where I want to be.

    I feel like many comments are saying they were compensated because they got a hotel in NYC. They weren’t in tourist NYC, they were in an outer boro over an hour by subway away from Penn Station. If they had been stuck in say Detroit would everyone say they were even steven? Or is it that somehow the hotel is in NYC somehow makes it more valuable?

    I also stand by my opinion that unless you are planning a trip vouchers are worthless. The couple may not be planning another trip anytime soon.

  • Nikki

    +1 for both Thomas and Mike Z.

  • Abhi

    I generally tend to side with OP but voted ‘NO’ on this one for some valid reasons. Looking at the events in order, Delta did enough to compensate OP for the flight delay with meal and hotel accomodations and that’s the only service Delta is required to provide. Delta did not book or manage the rest of the portions (hotels, sight-seeing etc.) of the travel plans OP had and hence the airline had no liability of what effects the delay could have had. Travel insurance should cover that portion, if OP had one. Delta went over and beyond its standard response and offered upgrades and vouchers.

    The only thing to conclude here is not to trust verbal promises from anyone, but have it in writing or on PNR system or ask the person if you can use a cell phone or camera and record/videotape the promise that is offered to you. Make sure you get the person to say who he/she is and in what capacity is the promise offered.

  • Jeffrey Hess

    Arizona – travel insurance would have cost more than $148. Also the couple never intended to buy a first class ticket so while it would have cost then more to do so, they didnt save any money by getting upgraded. I would rather fly coach and get to my destination on time instead of flying first class and having my trip cut short by a day. also these people werent traveling on businsess. after a long coach flight to a destination i am always ready to go since i am excited that i am sarting my vacation.

  • West Coaster

    Okay, I voted no. I actually think Delta kept it’s part of the bargain (and then some). Because, Delta did in fact cover the $148 as well as two additional $200 vouchers. They have received the value of the lost room night, maybe not in the form they prefer, but they have received the compensation. Nowhere did the flyer indicate they were promised cash/check for the amount.

  • Chris in NC

    Sheesh! They got upgraded to business class, and are still complaining? How many times do we read stories about travelers fighting for ANY compensation?

    Sure, a promise is a promise, but fighting for $148 after getting upgraded to business class makes me feel the OP is simply greedy. While the OP may be right legally, doesn’t make it right logically.

  • Mel

    I voted no because I hate these “well they promised” conversations where I’m sure misunderstandings are rampant. The OP got vouchers, an upgrade and an additional $148 in vouchers. Perhaps the airline rep said “we’ll pay for your hotel for one night” meaning in NYC and the OP misunderstood. It’s impossible to go back and figure out who said what and what they meant at the time. The travelers were pretty well taken care of; they need to file it under “sh*t happens” and let it go.

  • bodega

    My first thought is they were going to stay at a hotel in
    Venice for $148(taxes and service fees are usually included in the price)? I guess they would not see the value in what Delta gave them if they are paying so little for their accommodations in a city like Venice.

    It appears that nothing was noted in the PNR so the carrier gave them the value in the voucher which is not uncommon. With the upgrades and vouchers, they we treated pretty well for their delay.

    They now can take another trip, so not too bad of a deal!

  • http://gottogovacationrentals.com Dave

    I don’t think this is a tough one at all. You will seldom find me on the side of the airlines, but in this case I think Delta went way above what they needed to do. The upgrade alone on such a long flight would have made settled the issue for me. The Delta sent both of the mentioned vouchers on top of that. I can’t see anything to still be angry about.

  • AKT

    Here I am not willing to automatically trust the traveler’s memory or understanding. We all seem to think they have received enough compensation. None of us is sure as to the actual flow of the conversation: eg., did DL rep at first offer $148, and then the Business class upgrade in addition to it or instead of it?

    I would think that your duty is not only to represent travelers but also to educate them. This is one instance when the latter seems to be more appropriate. You should simply explain to them what DL’s legal obligations were, that DL went above and beyond those, and that clear communication (eg, getting things in writing) is everyone’s responsibility, and that without something in writing they have no case.

  • Arizona Road Warrior

    @ Jeffrey Hess – “Arizona – travel insurance would have cost more than $148.”
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    The prices for a travel insurance policy for a couple (Age 60 & 55…I used these ages since we don’t know their ages) to cover $ 300 (two hotel nights) for policies sold by Squaremouth (an underwriter of this blog) are $ 57, $ 65, $ 69, $ 72, $ 81, $ 84, etc. There are several other benefits of purchasing a travel insurance policy when you travel to Europe, Asia, etc.

    @ Jeffrey Hess – “Also the couple never intended to buy a first class ticket so while it would have cost then more to do so, they didnt save any money by getting upgraded.”
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    I didn’t say that they save money. I said that they were upgraded to Business Class and that was a $ 2,500 value.

    @ Jeffrey Hess – “I would rather fly coach and get to my destination on time instead of flying first class and having my trip cut short by a day. also these people werent traveling on businsess. after a long coach flight to a destination i am always ready to go since i am excited that i am sarting my vacation.”
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    It is hard for me to believe that someone can arrive ‘fresh’ and ready to go after spending 10+ hours on a flight, crossing several time zones, sitting like a sardine in coach, etc. We have taken enough tours where the other members of the tours were still recovering from their trip a day after their arrival.

  • Mary Graham

    I voted yes because the couple didn’t ask for anything they were “given”. Yes they should have been put up for the night, with meal included. But they didn’t ask for the upgrade, didn’t ask for the travel vouchers (which means they’ll have to spend even more money to use them), the just wanted their Venice night reimbursed. Why should they have to lose money because of a mechanical problem?

  • LeeAnne

    I’m with the “Oh for Pete’s sake” crowd. Sheesh! I would gladly give up a night in Venice in order to do the necessary transatlantic in Business Class. That’s worth WAY THE HECK more than $148. This is just a cash grab.

    Anyone who doesn’t see the value in Business Class for a transatlantic…hasn’t traveled in Business Class.

    As for the OP – sorry, but one of Christopher’s oft-repeated edicts is: get it in writing. Nothing in writing = it doesn’t exist. I would be more sympathetic if I didn’t think you were being ridiculously greedy.

  • Arizona Road Warrior

    @ Karen P: Things do happen like mechanical delays when you travel. What if the OP was driving their car from SFO to Disneyland and hit a pot hole on the road; damage their tire and they had a non-refundable, non-changeable hotel reservation in Anaheim which they couldn’t use for one night because they were waiting for their car to be repaired. Are you expecting the city\county\state\federal government (depending upon the ‘owner’ of the road) to reimburse the OP for the repairs and the cost of one night at the hotel? Good luck.

    The reality is that things can happen like weather, mechanical, etc. that you can’t control when you travel. On one hand, you can purchase travel insurance to protect yourself. On another hand, you can assume all of the financial risks and not purchase travel insurance. A traveler can select to have refundable and changeable hotel reservations to have flexibility if their travel plans change. A traveler can avoid traveling during the hurricane season to reduce their risks.

    Delta did follow their International Conditions of Carriage by giving them the meal and hotel vouchers plus they were upgraded to business class. In regards to the $ 148, the OP doesn’t have a written documentation or recorded conversation of the promise\guarantee\etc. that Delta will pay them $ 148 for their hotel room in Venice. I am not stating that the OP is lying about the promise, trying to scam Delta for $ 148, etc. It is my guess of misunderstanding what the Delta agent told them based upon my experiences in dealing with the public in business.

  • Steve H

    Surely the aggrieved travelers got far more from Delta than the $148 lost hotel night. The underlying issue is that they are angry for having lost one day of their vacation. I suspect, had it worked for their schedule and had they asked, that Delta would have moved their return leg to the following day, which would have given them another day in bella Italia to recapture what had been lost at the front end of the trip.
    Most of the time when people cannot be placated, the real problem has less to do with the problem they state than with something else. In this case, that something else was a disrupted vacation and a lost day.

  • Arizona Road Warrior

    @ Mary Graham: When you purchased an airline ticket, you are buying the ticket under the terms and conditions (i.e. contract of carriage) of the airline which is available to the traveler to read before buying a ticket. Nowhere does it states in Delta’s CoC (or any other airline’s CoC) that they will pay travelers for deposits for hotels, rental cars, vacations, etc. due to bad weather, mechanical delays, etc. Delta did follow their International Conditions of Carriage by giving them the meal and hotel vouchers plus they were given vouchers ($ 548) and were upgraded to business class. It doesn’t matter if the OP asked for $ 148 in ‘cash’, Delta is going to pay them what they are entitled under the terms and conditions of the CoC.

    Unless you want fares to go up 3x, 4x, 5x, an airline isn’t going to cover expenses due to bad weather, mechanical delays, etc.

  • BucksterSF

    The OP is either greedy or whiny, and maybe somewhere between. Delta could have been real dirtbags and they were generous. Things happen, and this seems like a good resolution. In fact I’ll go further – I’d give up a day of my vacation to get a free night in NYC and biz class and not have to be in sardine class over the ocean.

  • Jeffrey Hess

    Arizona – i am young, lean and in shape. when me and my wife went to hawaii (from nyc) on a non stop flight we were ready to go after we landed in hawaii. we were in coach but the configuration of the plane was 2-3-2 and we we were in the 2 seat part so it wasnt too uncomfortable. however on the return flight we did not feel so great when we landed.

  • DJP

    IT depends on how this vacation was booked.

    If iut was booked through Delta vacation system where the hotel was one that was published and they booked the entire trip through Delta then Delta would have much more responsibility.

    Lets take this a few steps further…and there was a mechanical delay but they couldnt rebook their trip for say 4 days later….what then? Should Delta be on the hook for this?

  • ruby

    business class overseas? that’s priceless!! I’d forgive the missing $148 any day for a business class upgrade on a 6+ hour flight!

  • Thomas

    @ Jeffrey Hess

    I’m glad to hear you’re young and in shape, perhaps the op is not. There was a time I would joke that I could have done a transcontinental flight standing on my head, not so today. Wait till you do a 15 hour flight to Dubai or 19.5 to Johannesburg.

    PS It’s my wife and I.