Air travelers want up-front, all-in price for tickets

A majority of airline passengers want to see an all-inclusive price for their tickets up front, according to a new survey.

Asked how they preferred to view airfares when they shopped for tickets online, two-thirds of respondents said they want to select optional fees at the start of their search, view an inclusive price quote, and compare airfares with the same options. The technology currently exists to generate such quotes, but airlines have not released their fee information in a meaningful and comprehensive way, making such a comparison impossible.

A smaller number of air travelers (15 percent) say they don’t require as much information up front, and are happy with seeing a menu of airfares and a list of extra fees from which they can choose, but that they don’t need to compare fares between air carriers.

Slightly fewer (14 percent) said they don’t mind the current system, which requires them to visit each airline site, check airfares, look for possible fees, and then write them down to compare them.

About six percent said they want the airlines to choose what fees and options they’ll be offered, which is a system currently being created by American Airlines.

The poll of 642 travelers was conducted last week on this site and Consumer Traveler, in cooperation with the Consumer Travel Alliance (full disclosure: I co-founded the Consumer Travel Alliance, and am its ombudsman).

I should also note that this survey was subjected to some criticism, which is always appreciated.

The responses made it clear, however, that customers have a strong preference when it comes to airfare shopping. Here’s reader Bill Doran:

I am firmly convinced that the US airlines are trying to squeeze every penny they can from their customers by any method they can. If they have to be less than forthright about their prices and fees, they will do so.

They will fight any practice that give the American consumer the ability to see the true cost of a ticket or be able to compare their price against another airline’s price.

When are they going to get the message that giving their customers an excellent product, at a fair price with no add ons or ambiguities will in the long run allow them to be a profitable business with a growing market share and a satisfied loyal customer base?

Lynn Root, a former travel agent, shares his frustrations.

I would like to see one central site that lists, breaks down, and compares not only the fares but the amenities you get for those fares.

I am horrified by what’s happening in the airline industry in general. It has become so blatently mercenary and user unfriendly that I dread having to research fares and all these new fees.

Reader Dolores Coletti blames an airline industry that’s out of touch with its customer.

I don’t like what the airlines are doing and continue to try to do. The online travel sites have made it extremely easy for the public to search for prices and compare.

The airlines would like to control even more of our choices and tell us what we need when we fly.

The only ones benefiting are the airlines. We, as the travelers, are finding the airlines more and more inhospitable. The arrogance of the airlines has become out of control.

But there’s another side to the argument. Read this interview for a primer on the issue. Here’s technology analyst Richard Eastman:

The airlines want consumers to see their product offerings, tailored for the consumer’s need, available instantly and directly from the source – NOT as “packaged” digitally by intermediaries such as the GDSs, TMCs, or even a local travel agent that is earning an override by up-selling one airline over another.

Direct access and the Internet provide that capability. They provide open access to all data and can be easily searched via multiple existing search tools readily available on Internet. And those search tools can be modified by the consumer or the buyer to fit their specific needs without intervention or unknown bias having been inserted by the third-party intermediaries.

The people and organizations advocating or claiming that the airlines don’t want to provide that kind of free access – as you imply by the tone of your question – reflect the needs of third-party intermediaries that are dependent on the existing digitally-closed channel-controlled distribution model.

In the current system, nobody can get access to an airline’s total inventory because the distribution channels are so archaic that they cannot respond to buyer needs technologically; let alone, open up cross-channel pollination to offer competing products universally across the Internet.

Your questions obfuscate the reality of the existing closed-channel that provides an existing money-chain to technologies and business processes that have been surpassed by the modern communication platforms upon which YOU, Chris, derive your living.

You, my friend, are shooting yourself in the foot!

Well, this certainly has been an interesting survey. Thank you, everyone, for participating.

  • SirWired

    Chris, I’m with the critics… a self-selected survey is a nice diversion, and gives people something to do while reading a website, but I wouldn’t view it’s answers as the least bit meaningful as a picture of the views of the general public. I cannot imagine why anyone would cite the results in a news article of any sort.

    Citing such “evidence” makes it hard to take the CTA seriously in any fashion, as you don’t know which statistics to trust.

  • bodega

    As of today, these fees are in my GDS to quote clients. Baggage fees, meal fees, unacocompanied minor fees and others if it pertains to that particular itineary. These fees are prompted when I price the PNR.

  • Bill

    The airlines are a pain for pricing in this way. But both
    them and the consumers are at fault for being too anal on price. If
    one airline offers something at $199,95 and another one offers it
    at $200.01, the latter will get no business and the former will be
    flooded with calls. People spend hours and hours trying to find
    something that is $10 cheaper. I see people on this site who will
    argue for weeks about $50. The whole process is completely
    flawed.

  • Joe Farrell

    People want airline pricing the way it was!!! In 2005. Woo hoo, lets get retro!

  • Diane Olivier

    A fee last summer that floored me: British Airlines charging $50 each way for a seat reservation. Make it and pay or take what’s left on day of flight. For a 10 hour flight I bit the bullet but I would have liked to have known up front that there would be another $100 I was spending.

  • http://frequentlyflying.com Darren

    I am definitely in the all-in camp. I can’t stand the advertisements for fares “starting at $59,” which is one-way, before taxes and fees. Even more infuriating are the international sale fares, such as New York to London for $199 when, after the UK taxes and fuel surcharges are added, the ticket ends up being closer to $700.

    I get where SirWired is coming from, but the survey is still an interesting snapshot of a small subset of travelers.

  • Thomas

    I want to see the bottom line price, no extras, just tell me what it’s going to cost.

  • http://ccairways.com/blog Bruce Sweigert

    I’ve created my own list of what sort of charges are OK and what are not -not a survey but I think this represents the consensus of most travelers:
    http://ccairways.com/blog/ancillary-revenue-customer-pov/

  • BucksterSF

    “Reader Dolores Coletti blames an airline industry that’s out of touch with its customer.”

    On the contrary, we have exactly the system we’ve asked for. We may say what we want, but we vote with our dollars. people book fares that are as little as $10 cheaper on another airline, and give zero weight to past experience or service.

    I say I don’t want to pay for someone else’s checked luggage so they add bag fees (that we complain about). I don’t want to eat the food so they make everything for purchase (that we complain about). I want the cheapest possible airfare and then complain when service is bare bones.

    We might as well all wear shirts that say “I am short sighted, please nickel and dime me”

  • Lisa S

    While I know that most people buy airfares based on the cheapest price, I don’t necessarily purchase the cheapest fare and I believe there are others who don’t either. I balance comfort with price. I like BA better than AA, so if BA costs a bit more (not a lot but say up to $250 more), I will most likely chose BA. Flying Economy Plus on BA is much comfortable than flying economy on AA, which does not offer Economy Plus–or at least didn’t on my December flight from LHR to ORD. I appreciate airlines that offer Economy Plus because I feel it is worth the extra money. Alas, not all airlines offer this option.

  • Mekhong Kurt

    I certainly get it that not everyone has the same needs or desires as other people, so the comments that a survey of this nature has to be viewed cautiously are correct. (That’s not meant in any way negatively, Christopher.)

    That said, I suspect there are a great many of us who start out with a max outlay in mind, or at least a fairly narrow range of one, so knowing total airfares in advance, right up front, is a nice idea for us.

    A table or chart would be usefull. Maybe the left could be for the base fare, mandatory taxes and other fees — each clearly identified, its price listed. Let’s say that takes the 405 left columns or cells. Put the total of those above the right-most of those columns.

    Any additional columns can be for extras. Say the next one to the right is for meal service. Put the price there — and the new total airfare, with the optimal meal(s), at the top of that column. And so on until all extras have been listed.

    Or an even better alternative (but which I didn’t mention first because it could be a bugaboo of a technical challenge — I flat don’t know) — is to have the inescapable stuff listed, individually priced, and totalled in, say, the upper lefthadn corner of the page, below which would be a list of options. The customer could check any options he wanted — seeing the extra charge AND new total airfare immediately, in real time. That way he could pick and choose, selecting here and deselecting there, to have a constant idea of the price possibilities he has.

    Of course, a would-be traveler will, ideally, do a bit of research to compare quality and reliability as well. Would I pause and reflect before paying an extra fee — let’s say $20 — to have a kosher meal if I were to learn that Air5line X has a horrendous record in forgetting to serve customers requesting such a meal the food they requested, etc.? — Probably not. Make that 100% not — it’s way too difficult and takes unreasonably long to wring a dime out of an airline, even one freely admitting an error.

    There may be something now and then that can’t be handled automatically, such as large check-in stuff that’s not only large, but oddly-shaped, taking up more room than a cubicle of the same weight would, for instance. I can understand and appreciate that.

    But airlines — please: don’t tell me I can fly from Point A to Point B for only 29$ — then hit me for 15 times that amount at the end of the day with little/no/obscure-to-the-point-of-bneing-impossible-to-find extra fees.

    I would imagine even corporate ttravel agents would appreciate that, especially those laboring under tightened budgetary constraints. Ditto wealthy people. Most wealthy people (I’m given to understand from afar) don’t get wealthy unles (1.) they don’t spend unneccessarily or foolishly, or, (2.) they inherited a vast fortune. If the first case applies, a wealthy person might think, “Why pay $15K for a first-class ticket on Airline ABC when a perfectly good, and equal, airline has the exact same kind of seat in first class available for just $5k?” [Note that I mean in an all-else-being-equal scenario.]

    In fairness, I feel I should add that we, the folks buying tickets, need to remember that practically every airline is struggling with thin profit margins. The possibility of wildly oscillating fuel prices sure doesn’t help, either. (For instance, I arrived back at my U.S. home almost exactly a month ago from my foreign residence abroad, where I live the great majority of the time. Gasoline prices in my immediate neighborhood have increased in the 10% range *just* since I arrived back. That’s volatile.)

    Just one guy’s two cents’ worth . . .

  • BillC

    I don’t need to know every fee, just tell me the cost of ticket that includes my baggage. If I want something extra I can look for it later.

  • Cheryl

    According to the news today more fees are coming our way, no more free peanuts and soda. I think it is a real shame what the airlines are going. I did not grow up in the lap of luxury, I have never bought a first class ticket because I could not afford it, but I do love to travel. But I will upgrade to a roomier seat from economy. I don’t think flying with your luggage should be levied against you, and cannot believe that airlines get away with it! Now they are saying if your carry on weighs more than 25 lbs you’ll be paying for that too! As for charging for a blanket, pillow, the option to speak with a live agent, it is just getting ridiculous! And what about seat size, there was a day you could get around the person in the seat, no more!!! I agree with BillC the cost of the ticket needs to include my luggage, but throw in the airport fees, taxes for a total cost. If the flight is over 4 hours, give me the option to eat real food, I can even order in advance!