100,000 miles, $194 and a one-week delay — and you offer this?

To fly from San Francisco to Paris last month, Kenneth Cook forked over 100,00 miles and paid a $194 fee 10 months before his scheduled flight. The routing wasn’t ideal — it sent him via Denver and Frankfurt, but for that, he was getting choice seats in the front of the plane.

The least he expected was the see his luggage at the end of the journey, and that if he didn’t, the airline would take care of everything.

It didn’t.

As he sipped his glass of champagne, waiting for his Denver-bound flight to take off, the captain made an announcement that “delays of over an hour were anticipated, due to the need to remove 10,000 gallons of fuel, which required getting a truck to the gate,” he says.

He tried to tell a crewmember that he would need to get off the flight and reschedule, but the attendant was “grossly incompetent” and failed to get the bag off his original flight.

His new flight took him from Heathrow to Paris on Air France.

Of course, my luggage was not in Paris. I followed the [claims] process with the AirFrance staff, and received a tracking number, a T-shirt, a razor and a tooth brush, with the information that, if I didn’t have luggage in 24 hours, I was authorized to spend up to 100 euros.

As I was in Paris only overnight, they were going to deliver my bag to my hotel in Avignon.

The bag didn’t arrive within 24 hours, and Cook had to keep moving. He caught a train to Goult, France and when he arrived, he bought a few essentials, including 3 polo shirts, socks and underwear.

“I hoped for the best,” he says.

That proved to be overly optimistic. His bag didn’t arrive until a week after his arrival in France.

When I received my alternate routing in San Francisco, I was handed a card apologizing for the inconvenience, and offered “compensation” if processed online. They offered a choice of two discount coupons (with imitations) or 3,000 frequent flyer miles. When I tried to escalate, I was pushed into a message capturing queue.

Mostly, Cook is puzzled. The refund for the missed clothing must be processed through Delta, which is an Air France partner in the United States. However, he’s also been offered a separate compensation through United. What’s more, since his flight was delayed by more than three hours, EU 264 might apply to his situation.

“I feel United really messed up on this, and 3,000 miles is insultingly puny,” he says. “While I earned this trip, it did, in the long run, cost me significantly to accumulate that many miles, and it did cost me to redeem the award.”

Is your head spinning yet? Mine is.

I suggested he push this issue with all the airlines involved (and really, there are too many) which he did.

Final outcome? Delta and Air France quickly refunded the $124 he spent on clothes. He was happy about that. United upped the amount of compensation to an electronic certificate for $100, good for a year.

“Even my travel agent, with whom I shared this information, found the amount paltry and insulting,” he says.

Is it enough? Well, technically, United was only transporting Cook from San Francisco to Denver. And under U.S. regulations, it doesn’t owe him anything. Carrier #2 — and not to confuse the issue — is Lufthansa. It didn’t suffer any delays and didn’t lose his luggage, yet it probably owns his original ticket. That ticket was transferred to Delta and Air France after the delay. Yet at the same time, Cook is a United frequent flier and used his United miles to buy the tickets.

So is this enough compensation? From one perspective, it’s more than enough. From another, it’s hardly enough. But I’m not really sure which perspective to take.

  • http://profile.yahoo.com/4DMVW6EDML54CXFQMZHZCZ7WEY EmilyE

     But if it is his fault that his luggage didn’t arrive, he doesn’t really have a right to expect his luggage to be there. When he changed flights without consulting the airline first, there’s no reasonable expectation of his bag flying with him.

  • http://www.facebook.com/asiansm Dang Ph

    I did have some reroutings due different reasons and most of the times my luggage are re-tagged and followed me (I don’t have to recheck). The only times my luggage don’t arrive at destination with me because of  the TSA security process takes time, not the fault of the Airlines. And I understand that, it belong to the today hassle and reality. By the way, I doubt the OP don’t have a little carry-on which have all the thing he need. He just want to squeeze the Airlines for more compensation.

  • TonyA_says

    Good point on the hand carry. I am still a bit perplexed on the checked luggage. If someone just got up and deplaned, he still would not have a new itinerary. Even the airlines would be clueless as to his next routing. So, baggage handlers would have to keep his bags in purgatory. In his case his original flight was around noon or 1PM, I think, but the flight he eventually took was at night. If an airline unloaded your bags, where would it be sitting for 6 or more hours without a definite routing still? For this reason, I would prefer to claim my bag, perhaps get some stuff moved to my carry on, and recheck the bag to my real known flight.

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_UES4TUPI6NRPTG2DCB4YCX6R4U wyoming1949

    Chris doesn’t attribute this statement to Mr. Cook.  Perhaps that comment was an erroneous assumption on the part of Chris.  Or, Chris invoked “poetic license.”  Again I find it outrageous that, with 100K miles, a non-stop SFO – CDG flight was nowhere to be found unless, perhaps, he was willing to ride in economy all the way. Next time just tell the airline to “shove” their miles and buy a fully refundable ticket with cash (credit card.)

  • bayareascott

    That is a decent point….Chris?  Was that his part of the story or yours?  Because it is very misleading in either case.

    As to the rest of your comments, you are off base.  The only airline that flies non-stop SFO-CDG is Air France.  He used Star Alliance miles.  Air France is not part of Star Alliance.  So there simply is no non-stop that exists, let alone anything for you to feel outrage about.  But he probably feels it is nice that you want to use his credit card to buy a fully refundable ticket.

  • sirwired

     While you are chatting with him, why don’t you ask what the FA did wrong to be branded as “incompetent”?  Because usually it isn’t up to an FA which bags do or do not get pulled from the hold.

  • Ken Cook

    This is Kenneth Cook and I’ll try to clarify the
    information. Unfortunately, I didn’t see this posting until a week ago.

    First off the booking: At 6-foot plus, I elected to
    use 100K miles to get a business class round trip from SFO to CDG. There were
    no available seats at that time staying purely on UA. I linked to the LH
    affiliate site, and there were seats galore. I chose flights that were midweek,
    and got decent seats on the 2 UA and 4 LH legs. The award booking was assigned
    both UA and LH locators.

    Now the eastbound leg: on boarding the UA flight in
    SFO, I was offered California sparkling wine in business class, as we had about
    30 minutes to scheduled push back at 1pm. At 1:15, the captain made his
    announcement: 30 minutes for a tanker to arrive, 30 minutes to unload the
    excess fuel. My connection time in Denver was 75 minutes. With another hour at
    the gate, the flight attendant told me to grab my gear and see a counter agent
    for rebooking. I was third in the queue to speak with the agent. He looked at
    my ticket (brushing my proffered luggage claim aside and ignoring my request to
    have the luggage removed) and told me to step aside. I complied, and watched as
    he dealt with the domestic fliers with connections in the central and mountain
    states regions first. I waited until last, an hour later, as the plane was
    pushing back. [In an hour, I believe my luggage could have been retrieved.] He
    released my seat and it was assigned to another passenger much earlier on in my
    wait. He then booked me on a UA flight to LHR at 7:35pm, leaving me to chill my
    jets for 5 hours in the business lounge. At Heathrow, I was to change to a AF
    flight to CDG. The gate agent assigned that routing – I just stood there and
    watched, as I was finally going to be able to get to Paris, I hoped.

    I labeled the gate agent grossly incompetent as I watched
    him jump from one task to another, never focusing on completing a rebooking
    straight through. I saw him handle about 15 other passengers, some of whom
    walked off to a concourse station and other gate agents. He may have been new,
    he certainly acted harried, and he was never polite or gracious. I particularly
    (quietly) resented his instructions to step aside without some explanation,
    other than “I’m going to take care of these other people first.”

    With 20-20 hindsight, I could have stayed on the plane, but
    there was no guarantee that there would have been a business-class seat
    available on a DEN-FRA or DEN-CDG flight, and I was never given that option. I
    was instructed to debark.

    My carry-on included my medications (one of which has to be
    kept chilled, so included icepacks,) books, camera, journal, pens,
    identification, travel information, a small toilet kit and some water. I was
    not carrying a phone or a computer, as the house I would stay at in Goult does
    not have Internet.

    Regulations for lost/delayed baggage assign responsibility
    to the terminating carrier, hence AF (and Delta, its US partner) to recover and
    deliver.

    Compensation: United initially offered 3K Mileage Plus miles
    or two small. I replied that this was absurd. They countered with the $100
    travel voucher. What I anticipated? 20-25K MP miles. Where it stands? No change
    since their last offer. Email sent to United’s CEO remains unanswered.

    Unfortunately, I still have 100K+ at MP, so another business
    trip to Europe may happen. Lesson learned: wait until I’m off the refrigerated meds,
    pack some clothing in the backpack. Still, the next award trip will be AA. Hopefully
    it will be a better trip.

  • TonyA_says

    The kind of ticket you had, the routing of your flights, or the transaction you had inside the airplane or at the gate is irrelevant. All your case is about is DELAYED LUGGAGE on an INTERNATIONAL flight. That said, any compensation is based on the Montreal Convention. Since nothing was lost or damage, then the airlines barely owe you anything. The COCs of the airline may bind them for something else (i.e. some expense reimbursement). But that is voluntary. Sorry.