सहयोग गर्नुस्! Stranded in Kathmandu after my online agent canceled my ticket

Jack Vanesko thought the instructions to the online agents at CheapOair were clear: They were supposed to cancel his traveling companion’s flight from New Delhi to Lhasa. Instead, they canceled both tickets.

“When I became aware that this had happened, I made daily e-mail and phone requests to have them reinstate the flights,” he says. “I was assured repeatedly that this had been done, and this was being handled by the concern team. It was, in fact, never done.”

Needless to say, Vanesko’s trip was a nightmare, and he missed the Tibet tour. (I’ll get to the unpleasant details in a moment.) Question is, does CheapOair owe him anything for having screwed up is reservation — and if so, what?

When Vanesko tried to travel, he discovered that the “concern team” had failed to restore his entire itinerary.

Through my own efforts I got the last standby seat on the New Delhi to Kathmandu flight with Jet Airways but when I tried to connect to the Air China flight from Kathmandu to Lhasa I was told there was no reservation or ticket in my name and that the plane was full. They left without me.

The next possible flight was three days later. So I was stuck in Kathmandu for three extra days at an additional and unexpected expense to myself of $450. My travel package in Tibet was prepaid and non refundable at a cost of $525. At the age of 67 I have probably lost my only chance of visiting Tibet.

You’d think CheapOair would do whatever it could to fix the problem after Vanesko’s return. “Far from it,” he says.

Since my return, I have communicated with CheapOair by e-mail and phone no fewer than 20 times in an effort, at the very least, to get my ticket refund of $940. It turns out that they are expert liars as well as being incredibly duplicitous and incompetent.

I was told that a supervisor has “escalated this matter to upper management” on at least three other occasions I was told that this matter was, that day, being sent to their “priority customer service department’ for immediate action. I would be willing to make a small wager that no such department exists.

I’ve also been told that the refund was approved and would be sent in “7 to 14 days.” More lies!

They then said it was the airline’s responsibility to make the refund. Why? The airlines did nothing wrong. I paid CheapOair for the ticket. They and they alone committed the egregious error that cost me nearly $2,000 and the heartbreak of knowing I will probably never get to Tibet. It was all their doing and I look to them to reimburse me. Anything less is certainly fraud and possibly robbery. They took my money, did not provide the goods or services and refuse to return my money. Isn’t that the definition of stealing?

In June, CheapOair refunded $498. I also spoke with CheapOair at the highest level, and was assured they would cover the rest of his costs. Seems they were waiting for Vanesko to send them receipts from his travel expenses, so that they could reimburse him.

A week ago, I heard from Vanesko.

CheapOair has agreed to pay me $1,500, which represents the balance of the ticket cost, the money I lost on my prepaid non-refundable Tibet package, and the extra expense incurred in my forced Kathmandu stay. He also agreed to a free air ticket to compensate for enduring this year long horror story.

A happy ending? Perhaps.

The real question here is, could Vanesko have done anything different to make sure this didn’t happen? How about using a travel agent? Nope, his reservation might have been canceled, anyway. But a bricks-and-mortar travel professional might have been able to fix the mistake before he left.

What about the airline? He might have been able to contact the carrier directly and asked for his tickets to be reinstated, instead of pressuring CheapOair for a resolution.

There’s one other way he could have ensured his reservations weren’t canceled: He could have sent his cancellation request in writing, by email, or done it online — not by phone. That may have prevented this mess.

What do you think? How would you have avoided the canceled ticket problem?

(Note: To anyone out there who speaks Nepali — and I don’t — I should explain that I shamelessly lifted the phrase सहयोग गर्नुस् from the useful phrases in Nepali page. It means “help.” I think.)

(Photo: dw rawlinson/Flickr Creative Commons)

  • http://www.innthekitchen.com Rachelle

    i always try to put everything in writing/email since experiencing something similar with Hotels.com.

  • Arizona Road Warrior

    “How would you have avoided the canceled ticket problem?”

    When he was informed by CheapOair that his airline tickets were reinstated, he should have asked for the ticket number or PNR from each airline that he was booked on. Then he should have went to each airline website to see that he has a ticket, etc.

    I agree with Chris that he should have sent an e-mail, letter or fax to cancel his traveling companion’s flight instead of a phone call.

    Personally, I would have dealt with a brick & mortar travel agent. A traditional brick & mortar travel agent could have made the same mistake but you could go and sit in his\her office to fix the problem. Also, a brick & mortar travel agent could provide assistance if you encounter a problem on your trip.

    I don’t know if travel insurance would have cover the missed flight from Kathmandu to Lhasa. I think that travel insurance that is purchased directly from an insurance company like a site like InsuredMyTrip, Squaremouth, etc. (not travel insurance sold by an airline, a cruise line, a tour operator, etc.) is needed when traveling outside of the US, once in a lifetime trips\special events, cruises, tours, etc. A good travel insurance policy can provide good benefits if needed.

    When taking a cruise, a tour, etc., we like to arrive one to five days early because things can happen as well as we like to spend some time on our own before starting a tour, a cruise, etc. It does add money to the trip but it does give me a peace of mind.

  • Steve

    That’s what you get for using an online site called “CheapO Air”. You get what you pay for, you cheap-o.

  • Wrona

    I think booking a complex itinerary (multiple international flights on different airlines with limited services to where he was going when he had to be there to meet a prepaid once of a lifetime trip) like this through a company like CheapoAir might have been the first mistake. This wasn’t a simple flight between point A and point B. I know a lot of people that don’t like using brick and mortar travel agents because “most of the time I can book it myself easily” but this wasn’t an easy ticket even before the cancellation of the travel partner. It is for complex situations like this where a good travel agent can be most valuable.

    Definitely the fact that he didn’t request the cancellation in writing and verify directly with the airlines after the fact that his reservation was correct was also part of the problem. No matter how you book you need to verify things. Even the best person can make a mistake.

  • http://golodgings.com Martin Smith

    I love it Elliott when you ask is there something else the consumer could have done. I have read your responses about CheapoAir before and you are wrong and this consumer is right. They are consummate crooks, in fact it would surprise me to find out that they are part of organized crime, and will do absolutely nothing for you once they have your money. Every interaction with them is fraught with peril and from taking reservations and then days later telling you that you don’t have a reservation to simply refusing to do anything at all if something goes wrong they prove in every way that people should avoid them like the plague.

  • Lisa S

    For those of you who advocate using a brick and mortar travel agent: A friend and I used a brick and mortar travel agent (AAA, which might have been the problem) for a trip to St. Croix. (Totally overpriced trip, by the way, but a great learning experience for my friend.) My friend called to ask if we could cancel the trip in case a relative’s health started to go bad. We had insurance, so it wasn’t an issue about getting our money back. Rather than simply answering the question, the TA cancelled the trip during the phone call, announcing triumphantly that it was taken care of! Hello? My friend was asking a question. Could we have gotten the trip reinstated? Quite possibly. But, as it turned out my friend’s family member died so the trip would have been cancelled anyway. The point is that even brick and mortar travel agents make mistakes–although I do agree that AAA might have more readily corrected the mistake. It sounds to me like no one should use CheapO Air. I have tried to use them in the past and decided not to based on prices, restrictions, and hassles. I feel like I made a good decision.

  • Ron

    As a traditional brick and mortar agent, I wholeheartedly agree that the best thing would have been to put it in writing. I will not cancel or modify a reservation after it is done without having it in writing. As others have pointed out, I can make mistakes and this is my coverage that I am doing what my customer wishes. It only takes one time having to eat a mistake for me to learn my lesson and this way it doesn’t become a he said she said situation.

  • Tanya

    I think he should have gotten it in writing. Whether he e-mailed or sent a letter in, he should not have trusted this matter to a telephone call. Of course, I also agree, that you should know that by booking with the web-site CheapOAir (I have never used this website) that you may have to deal with less qualified individuals. They can offer cheap air flights for a reason. Also, you never know who you are speaking to, it could be somone’s first or second day on the job, and humans do make mistakes. Had this conversation been in writing, or at least followed up by an e-mail (immediately after) stating, just to confirm, I asked for and you said you did X. That way, when you find out in a week that they did Y, you have something to show them. And it gives them a chance to correct the error from the follow-up. I also wonder why he did not ask for a flight confirmation number. That would have been the easiest thing to do to check up on everything.

    I am not sure why so many are such fans of the brick and mortar travel agencies. When my family and another opted to use a local brick and mortar (recommended) for our Mediterranean trip we had nothing but problems. They did not listen to our budget concerns, were inept at making our airline reservations, which another traveler ended up doing, dropped the ball on making our Euro-Rail pass purchases, again, we ended up doing this, and left one family without the proper number of rooms at a hotel for part of the trip. After that experience, we have not been a fan of travel agents. When I traveled to Europe the first time (as a student) I was there for over 2 months and never even spoke to a travel agent. I had no problems whatsoever. Everything went very smoothly. Working with a travel agent, nothing but problems. We attempted to use a different travel agent for an Alaska trip. Again, not helpful and not worth it at all, we still ended up having to make most of our reservations ourselves because the TA kept dropping the ball. Maybe one of these days I will end up working with a great travel agent and have my mind changed. Until then, I am not sure they are as helpful as so many suggest.
    Of course, that being said, if this really was a trip of the lifetime, I would have purchased travel insurance and possibly seen about trying out another travel agent.

  • Dan

    As someone who has actually traveled to Kathmandu, I find it odd that there’s a published itinerary using that as a connection.

    But anyway, despite the push on this site to use a B&M travel agent, Chris STILL encourages people to verify, verify, verify everything. And if that’s the case, why go through a travel agency at all? It’s just one more place for things to get screwed up. So either you pay the guys some extra $$$ to handle things for you, and you can trust them, or save the money and do it yourself. But paying them and essentially doing all of their follow up work makes no sense.

    (I mean, not everybody likes to do their own travel arrangements, so it makes sense to pay someone to do them for you. But if you’re suppose to go back and go over all of the details to make sure the agents didn’t forget anything, why pay them in the first place?)

  • Delta Million Miler

    In some ways, this experience is similar to one I had with Delta Airlines. I had worked with Delta to use miles for an international trip for two of us. Most of the travel was to be on a sister airline. Shortly before the trip, the person traveling with me decided not to travel. When I called delta to cancel that ticket, the helpful agent took the information and started the cancellation process, I heard an “Oh No” and then she said she needed to put me on hold. When she returned, she told me she had accidentally cancelled my ticket and could not get it back. She then cancelled the ticket that needed to be cancelled hoping that would allow her to bring my ticket back. Over the next few days, various Delta agents worked to get everything reorganized. Everything was complicated by a holiday and the time differences between the two airline offices. Each time Delta thought it was worked out, something else happened. Late the night before the flight, Delta was able to piece everything together (or so they thought). I arrived extra early at Delta LAX to get my actual tickets. Turns out, the “fix” would have only worked on the outbound and I would have been stranded internationally. The agent spent hours working on getting everything straightened out. When her supervisor wondered why she was spending so much time, I assured him, she was being outstanding. When she finally had both in and out bound finished there was only about two hours left before take-off. The supervisor agreed to allow her to walk over to the International Terminal and make sure everything was fine with the other airline. Turns out, there were still issues, that only she was able to solve because she was an airline employee. After rushing me through security, I was just able to make the flight. Lessens: Anyone’s ticket can be deleted at any time through noone’s “fault”. When two entities are involved, no matter how much you think everything is covered, something may still not be right. When the unconceivable happens it is best to have a persistent, but not angry attitude and know it will eventually work out. Finally, that no matter how bad the pre-flight experience, you can still have (as I did) one of the best trips ever and that I will be eternally grateful to the staff at Delta’s International Partner Awards department as well as the wonderful Delta gate agent at LAX!!!!!!!!!

  • John

    “The real question here is, could Vanesko have done anything different to make sure this didn’t happen?”

    Yes, he could have not booked an exotic trip like this one with a company called CHEAPoair. This is hilarious yet sad at the same time.

  • Steve

    [I'm not the same Steve that commented already on this post]. I’m tired of people blaming the victim for a business’s incompetence. The price of the travel “agency” is not germane here. I don’t care how cheap a business is: that does not excuse basic incompetency. If the issue here was that the traveler had a complicated special request that didn’t work out or that he felt CheapoAir should have been easier to deal with, the comment that “you get what you pay for” would perhaps ring true. That’s not the case here. He made a simple, straightforward request (to cancel his traveling companion’s flight) and they bungled it, cancelling his as well. What’s really unconscionable was that when he discovered the mistake and asked them to make it right, they assured him that his ticket had been reinstated when it in fact had not. Clearly, they should have to pay…and I’m glad they did.

    @John: the fact that this was an exotic trip matters very little to this story (and only insofar as the traveler will likely never get a chance to complete the trip, which is a nonmonetary consequence of CheapoAir’s incompetence and not one that can reasonably be made right). The problem happened with a relatively simple request (cancel one person’s flight) and was compounded by the lie that the mistake had been corrected and that the traveler had his ticket reinstated.

    Honestly, I bristle at the attitude some people have regarding abysmal customer service from discount providers. It’s *not* the customer’s fault, and no matter how cheap something is, a very basic level of customer service (as in, providing the item for which you paid) should be given or else the provider should pay the consequences. I wonder if these same people would complain if they got food poisoning from a fast-food restaurant (hey, you knew the food was cheap – buyer beware!), or if they bought a DVD player from Wal-Mart and it was broken when they took it out of the box (it was $30, what did you expect?)

  • Duke Nukem

    CheapoAir Sucks! Sorry, not much else to say…

  • John

    Steve – I don’t disagree with you that that this wasn’t the passenger’s fault, but still…come on, booking a trip to Tibet through Cheapoair???

  • Ernest

    My experience with trying to have the airlines reinstate the ticket tells me that it probably would not work. I have tried that and most airlines will not even talk to you if you use an agent to purchase the tickets. Their excuse is that only the purchasing agent can modify the tickets. Still, he might have gotten an agent that felt sorry and would make an exception but I would not bet on it.

    Just another reason to do your own tickets and planning. While it may be true that all TA’s are not dishonest or crooks, I have not found one that I trust yet. How can you trust a person you can not see when you can not walk into their office and look them in the face? Dealing with one that you don’t know who can hide behind the internet seems to me as an invitation to be ripped off. I do admit that I am jaded by bad experiences and Jack should be after this experience.

    By the way, I am still looking for the honest TA. Kind of like the story in mythology of the man, if forget his name, who carries a lantern around looking for an honest man. I’m carrying my checkbook looking for that TA.

  • David Z

    I’m tired of people blaming the victim for a business’s incompetence.

    Perhaps some people see this discussion as blaming the victim for the company’s incompetence as you said. It doesn’t have to be seen that way.

    Sure, it can be a somewhat perverse joke that people ought to be wary of booking their travel with a name like CheapoAir. Well, people want to book their air cheap, right?

    OTOH, others are essentially pointing out “this is what can happen if you book your travel with a company like this”. With similar horror stories in Chris’ blog about CheapoAir, who can blame some of them?

    (Some were thankfully fixed. But without Chris’ timely intervention, I wonder if they would really be?)

    Although such points are essentially related to Mr. Vanesko’s problem, folks, the main one here isn’t that Mr. Vanesko should book the tickets himself, or go with a brick & mortar travel agent for things like this. The main point is that CheapoAir’s agent cancelled both passengers’ tickets instead of that of only Mr. Vanesko’s companion.

    (Of course, I’m assuming that’s exactly what Mr. Vanesko specifically requested. Some of you might be surprised to know I’ve dealt with few people who asked me and/or my peers to:

    1. Cancel flight tickets for both or more passengers when they actually intended to cancel theirs or someone else’s;

    2. Told us rather too late or after we actually cancelled it;

    3. And insisted we fix our “mistake” even if we double-triple-quadruple checked with them first.)

    As someone said, unfortunately it’s difficult (if not impossible) to reinstate a cancelled flight. Obviously I don’t speak for all or other travel agencies, but those I’ve shared notes with have hardly any success trying to undo an agent’s mistake that way.

    In our case, we just buy a new ticket for the passenger…and charge that to the agent who committed the supposed error. We’d just eat the cost if the agent did everything correct yet it happened, and the agent is held accountable if shown they didn’t do it “correctly”.

    Though it takes time, we’re able to do it over the phone to verify claims like that. I guess it’s YMMV. (Your Mileage May Vary)

    @Ernest

    That was Diogenes of Sinope.

  • Steve

    @John: I do agree with you that I can’t think of any good reason to book this trip through CheapoAir. Either the traveler is savvy enough to book a fairly complex itinerary on his own (and it sounds like he might have been) directly through the airlines, or he’s not and he should have consulted a real travel agent who would actually have been helpful. So I see your point.

    But in the end I don’t think it matters. I would liken it to someone who leaves valuables on the seat of their car in plain view, then a thief breaks into the car and steals them. Should he have been smarter? Absolutely. But that thief would be prosecuted just the same as if the car’s owner had done everything he could to protect himself (by keeping valuables in the trunk, having a car alarm, etc).

  • Pete Steinmetz

    Why in the world do people use these type of sites when booking important trips. I doubt they actually save any money.
    You really get what you pay for.
    I don’t have a lot of sympathy for these situations.

  • Joel Wechsler

    @Ernest Let’s be clear about one thing. The faceless people you describe who are hiding behind the internet are not travel agents. They are booking services. A real travel agent, whether home-based or in a traditional brick and mortar location, is a live person with whom you can interact face to face, and you don’t need your checkbook to find them.

  • Gfmohn

    Normally, I would agree with Steve, who wrote, “I don’t care how cheap a business is: that does not excuse basic incompetency.” However, CheapOair has, as the lawyers say, “given notice.” There is old German story about a man who helped a snake, and in return, the snake bit him fatally. As the man lay dying, he asked the snake why. The snake replied, “You knew what I was!”

  • http://www.roamingtales.com Caitlin @ Roaming Tales

    I often look up fares on a site like Expedia and then go directly to the airline’s own website to see if I can get the same deal. I’ve had trouble with online travel agents before as well (though I’ve never used CheapOAir and the name alone would put me off) but they do a great job as comparison shopping sites!

  • Gowri Vadyar

    Mr. Elliott: I am the owner of a Travel Agency called V GO WORLD INC and have been in the travel business for more than 30 years. I have very much enjoyed your site and am quite ashamed of my colleagues in the travel industry and the attitudes of the travel agents. As I am one of those agents from the old school and have gone through many of the problems that passengers above mention, here are my suggestions. I fully agree with the comments made above that as far as possible cancellations and changes should be made in writing. But sometimes , all travelers do not have an access to internet in some remote areas at which point calls are made. It is always a good idea to do what Arizona Road Warrior suggested, take the PNR, recheck with the e ticket number on the airline web site or the PNR number , or call airlines concerned to reconfirm that only one reservation had been cancelled. Similarly, when passengers call airlines and want to enquire about the consequences of what happens when some one has to cancel and what are the penalties they are going to incur, it is always a good idea to start the sentence this way, by saying, Please do not cancel this reservation or make any changes, I am calling to find out what are the consequences if I decide to do so and so , at the end once again reiterate the statement, I do not want you to cancel any reservations, at this point all I am doing is calling to enquire what will be the consequences, this way the agent is careful not to mess the reservation. I am a travel consultant specializing in complicated itineraries worldwide and if anyone wants a turbulent free trip, please do not hesitate to call V GO WORLD INC at 732-257-3846 or email us at vgoworld@att.net